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HEBREWS 12 - EXHORTATION
Tape 1
Off the tape I was just telling everybody that this is an unplanned message. The
Lord changed my message that I was hoping to preach this morning, and the
thrust of the message that He has given me for you is at the end of Chapter 12,
actually verses 20-29, and I am going to read through and make some comments
starting with verse 1.
My Open Bible has a notation under Chapter 12 that this chapter is an example
of Christ's endurance, and what I see in it is an exhortation that is designed to
lead us toward sonship. We used some words in the Kingdom Church, sonship,
full stature, but they are not really in the scripture, but we know that those who
follow after the Spirit of God are the sons of God, and a lot of people think that
they do but they don't follow after the Spirit of God. That means that those who
follow after the Spirit of God all of the time. It means those who live out of the
Spirit of God, and the Spirit of God in this hour is taking what form in men?
What form is this Spirit of God in men? We have the mind of God, but we default
to the mind that we were born with. If we don't raise up and lay hold of the mind
of God we are living out of the mind that we were born with. So sonship is talking
about people who are following after God all of the time even to the extent that
when they are not following after God, they are praying for the ability to follow
after God. We are talking about people who are completely submitted to the Lord
and hoping to be changed into His nature, and those that have this hope purifies
themself. The term full stature refers to the condition that Jesus Christ was in.
The King James says we should come unto the fullness of the stature of the Lord
Jesus Christ. He was a mature spiritual man. In this hour the human race is
suffering from spiritual arrested development. Spiritual arrested development.
We may look like we are all grown up, but we don't act like we are all grown up,
and we know we are not all grown up when our bodies die. We are abiding in hell
and death, and we are immature spiritual female who cannot even keep their own
soul alive, but in Christ Jesus we have the opportunity to overcome spiritually
arrested development, and to mature into male sons of God who live forever.
They abide forever. Why? Because the son and the Father, the son is in the
bosom of the Father and in spirit we are inseparable. So when you are joined to
life you live. Conversely, therefore, if you die you must be joined to death. But
you say, I'm saved. I have the Holy Ghost and I speak in tongues. Brethren, if
you die you are not joined to life because if you are joined to life you would not
die. There is a hole in your doctrine, and the Lord lives you, but the time is very
near for correction to be made and it is going to be a painful correction. You
could ask anybody who has suffered from emotional arrested development when
they start to mature, well first of all it takes a shocking experience to start you
maturing. It is painful. Traditionally, something painful has to happen to you to
knock you out of that groove you are going around in. That groove that you are
going around in is the curse of arrested development. Once you are bounced out
of that groove, the curse is broken and you start to mature and maturation is very
painful. Little children mature, hopefully, in the arms of a loving mother and a
caring father and possibly, hopefully, loving, siblings, in a safe family situation.
They abide the pain. Pain is much more tolerable when you are younger than
when you are older. For example, the pain of circumcision, an 8 day old baby boy
is circumcised. All they give him is a little wine on his tongue. I don't know what
they do in the hospital. The Jews put a little wine on the baby's tongue and they
circumcise him, and he cries and then it is over. You circumcise a full grown
man, it is a major operation, and dangerous I am told, and very, very, very
painful. So you ask anybody who is overcoming arrested emotional development,
after they are bombed out of the groove they have to start walking into their
maturity, and you walk into your maturity through experiences. You must have
experiences to mature. You have to have painful experiences, and you have to
have overcoming experiences which you learn from. Maturity is not a gift.
Maturity is not a gift that can be given to you in a box with a ribbon. You have
to walk into maturity, you have to have the experiences, you have to live the life,
you have to go through, and overcome, and grow up into maturity. Brethren, this
is the same way with our spiritual maturity. A newborn infant has received the
life of this existence. It is not really life, but the life of this existence, as a free gift
he is born. One day he is here. Did he do anything to be born? It is a free gift.
But maturity, brethren, is a painful, growth experience which goes on for years.
We grow emotionally, hopefully, as long as we are in this world. Spiritually, this
is also true. The Holy Spirit is a free gift. You don't have to do anything to get
it. Some people ask for it, some people He falls on without their asking for it, but
even if you ask for it, it is a free gift. There is really nothing you could do to get
it. But, spiritual maturity is not a free gift, and if that is what you have been
taught in your church you are mistaken, they are mistaken, your teachers are
mistaken. The free gift is the Holy Spirit which is available to us because the
Lord Jesus Christ gave up the life that He had in the flesh of the man known as
Jesus of Nazareth, and now you have the opportunity through the free gift of His
seed to walk into maturity. Why? Because He is maturity. You can't walk into
maturity if you don't have a potential for maturity. He is maturity. He is the
resurrection. He is Life. He is Truth. He is maturity. We have a journey to take
from this existence here into His life, and there is no way that you are going to get
in without painful and overcoming experiences which teach you to be wise and
how to avoid certain problems and how to overcome other ones. That's why the
virgins who have no oil will not be able to get their oil and get back in time to
enter into the door. It is not something you can buy at the store. Jesus said, buy
of me. Well, that is the KJ translation. It is not something that you give a dollar
to and get a package back. The word, buy of me, means, have a relationship with
me by which I will give myself to you. He wants to give us His life. so when He
says, buy of me, it means buy of my substance, but it only comes little by little,
and we have to walk through this into maturity. So, the hour is at hand brethren,
the door has been opened for two thousand years, and Christ Jesus has been
appearing in a multitude of human beings. I am not talking about Jesus Christ
who ascended and who is now in the earth as the Holy Ghost. Let me say that
another way, someone will misunderstand. The Lord Jesus Christ overcame
completely. He is the first one, the first human being, to be born into the spiritual
world of His Father, the physical spiritual world. He said, I go to a place where
you can't come. He was the only one of human kind who can enter into His
Father's world. He has returned unto us in the form of seed and is planting
Himself in the minds of the many members of humanity, and when the glorified
Jesus Christ plants Himself in the mind of a man His name changes. He has one
name when He is out side of, when He's not joined to the mind of a man, and He
has another name when is joined to the mind of a man. What is His name when
He is not joined to the mind of a man? Answer: Elohim? Sheila: No, in this
hour, what's His name? Sheila: the Holy Spirit or the Lord Jesus Christ in seed
form, and what's His name when He is joined to the mind of a man? Answer:
Christ Jesus. Sheila: Christ Jesus. His name changes because His position
changes. Position changes, your name changes. Christ Jesus which is the
engrafted Holy Spirit has been trying for two thousand years to raise himself up
out of the death of this world that He has planted Himself in. He raised Himself
up a little bit a couple of times. He raised His head up in Paul, probably raised
His head up somewhat in Peter, and somewhat in John. John may have been in
full stature, but they never went to the other two stages, and John and Paul were
never fully born into the visible spiritual world of God. Jesus of Nazareth is the
only one who was.
Now during this two thousand years the Holy Spirit has been spread to large
portions of the world, and what does that mean? It means that there are people
all over the world who have the Spirit of God but do not have the nature of God.
Having the Spirit of god, however, qualifies them for the overcoming experience
which will bomb them out of arrested spiritual development and allow them to
walk into the spiritual realm of God or heaven or having a spiritual experience
that lines up with the experience of the Hebrews in Egypt. We are all slaves in
this world brethren, we are all slaves, we have go to come out of Egypt. We have
to give up the things of this world and move into the things of God, and there are
a lot of people out there hearing this tape saying, well I have already done that.
And my answer to you is that you do not understand what I just said to you, and
the simplest way that I could put it is this. Of course, this burden is not on you.
The Lord is going to bring you to it. The Lord is going to bring you to a place
when nothing of this world satisfies you except Him. I am not telling anyone to
even try to do it in your own strength. I am telling you what is coming. He is
going to create such a hunger for Himself in you that nothing, nothing will satisfy
you but Him. That is coming out of this world, brethren. That is coming out of
this world, and I tell you that as long as things of this world satisfy you, you have
not come out of this world. Everybody is in a different degree. I'm very, very
deep into Christ Jesus. Not much satisfies me other than Him but things of this
world do satisfy me. Now don't get condemned. I am just giving you a vision. I
am telling you what's coming. We have had two beautiful days. It is gorgeous out
there. I just got back from seven weeks in Florida, beautiful scenery, and the
mountains of North Carolina and Tennessee and the Lord told me, Sheila, it is
just the lust of your eyes. It is making you happy, that means you are still carnal.
Should you be condemned? No. But know this, that the day is going to come that
even that is not going to satisfy you, so if the Lord has called you to come out of
the things of this world this is what He is talking about. Let me tell you something
brethren, when the only thing in this world that gives you peace or joy or
contentment is Him you are going to be with Him every second that you don't
have a strong responsibility. And not many people could say that. What does that
mean? You are not all that spiritually mature, and you have to go through a
series of steps to get there, but most people don't want to get there. They are
saying, I don't want to be a fanatic. I go to church three times a week, I read my
Bible, isn't that enough? Well, it is enough with me. I don't have any problem
with it, but the Lord Jesus Christ intends to marry you, and it is not enough for
Him. So this is what's coming. He is going to create such a hunger in you that
nothing else will satisfy, and why am I telling you this? That when it happens to
you, brethren, you should not be upset. You should not think there is something
wrong with you. What it means is that the Lord has apprehended you. When this
hunger comes upon you that nothing satisfies you, like His Word and the spiritual
truth and spiritual experiences that He is bringing into your life. You will know
that you are well on the path to full stature. Full stature is not a rapture. For
many years, I said, well it is a spiritual rapture, your body is not going anywhere,
your spirit is getting caught up. It is not even a spiritual rapture. For years I said
to the Lord, how is this going to happen, when is it going to happen, give me a day
that I am going to be snatched up and be a Son of God? There is no day nor hour
brethren. You have to walk into heaven. It's a walk that you walk. It's a race
that you run every day of your life, and the more experiences you can tolerate the
faster you will enter in, and these experiences are painful. We walk into heaven
brethren through maturing and overcoming experiences, and the more you open
yourself up to having these experiences the faster you are going to move in. If you
are running from the pain or if you just can't bear it. Maybe you just can't bear
it. You are going to go slower, but you always have the power of prayer, but I
warn you if you ask the Lord to move you in as rapidly as possible it is going to
be intense, but He will answer that prayer. This is my point, I am going to say it
again. There is no spiritual rapture either. We walk into the Kingdom through
spiritual experiences which are sure to be painful from which experiences we
learn and through which experiences we overcome. With each overcoming and
each lesson truly learned we are one step closer. We walk in brethren. We walk
in. There is a labor, there is a labor that is unto life. It is spiritual labor, and this
labor is what is called the Sabbath Day. You are not supposed to do any manual
labor, any physical labor, any labor of this body. If you an Orthodox Jew you can
study on the Sabbath Day, you can worship god on the Sabbath Day. So as much
time as you give to the spiritual things of God, you are abiding in Jehovah's
Sabbath Day.
Let me try this exhortation. It is a strange morning. I do believe, however, that
the Lord has trumpeted the announcement that the Hebrew children, I mean
those who are called the church, that the time is very near. The time is very near
for us to be approaching the fullness of the stature of the Lord Jesus Christ. I
don't know what that means. It may be a week, a month, five years, I don't know,
but it is near. We are doing to see it, it is very near.
Hebrew Chapter 12, verse 1. Wherefore seeing we also are encompassed about
with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight and the sins which
doth so easily beset us and let us run with patience the race that is set before us.
I have to tell you brethren this whole introduction that I gave you I really did not
even realize it was verse 1 of Hebrews 12. I really didn't so I have already talked
about verse 1 of Hebrews 12. I love it when the Lord does that.
Let me just make a few points here. Let us lay aside every weight and the sin
which doth so easily beset us. Brethren, things that weight us down because to
walk into heaven we have to ascend so the things that weigh us down are the
things that are keeping us from ascending, keeping us from running the race,
keeping us from having the experiences that will enable us to walk in, and sin. .
. I haven't looked at this in the Greek so I am just going by the Spirit. Sin, our sin
nature does not want us to go in and it's things that we idolize that weigh us down.
The things that we won't leave behind. the things that we won't leave behind. For
example, some women won't come in without their husband. They have it in their
head that their husband. . . .or some men without their wife, that they won't go in
and they hold back and they hold back because they have a wrong thought in their
mind, and it is lie and it is the pride of their own heart. They don't want to go in
without their mate, and they are letting their mate weigh them down. am I
against marriage? No, I am not against marriage but I am telling you the truth,
I've never seen the Lord call a couple. He calls individuals, and when He calls you
are supposed to answer and you pray for your mate. If the come, fine. If they
don't come, you have to go anyway. So Paul says, leave all your weights, leave all
your idols, behind. Your mate can be an idol. Leave all your idols behind, leave
your sin nature behind. The sin which doth so easily beset us, I've been battling
with my sin nature for years. I've become fierce of recent date. The first sign of
an oppression or depression I am all over it doing everything I can to drive it
from my midst because I choose to be happy and joyous. Now don't mistake what
I just told you for denying your sins because we have a lot of people in the church
and we have some people right here who are still not dealing with their sins
adequately, and I taped John Bradshaw yesterday morning. There is no true
forgiveness if you do not acknowledge that someone has wronged you. You cannot
forgive people if you don't admit that they did you wrong, and the Pharisee mind
says, that's nothing, it's o.k., didn't bother me at all, it is all right. No, it is not all
right because they did something wrong to you, and to say that it is nothing is not
the forgiveness of sin. The forgiveness of sin is to admit that they did something
wrong to you, very probably hurt you and you choose to forgive them, but not to
acknowledge that you hurt, or not to acknowledge that you were wrong, there is
no forgiveness. Now you can acknowledge that someone did something wrong but
deny that you were hurt, and if you deny that you were hurt you have not truly
forgiven that person. It is just words. The whole world knows about it. A large
portion of the church don't know about it. They don't even know what forgiveness
is. You can't bury it brethren. You have to confess that it is sin, and that you did
something wrong. If you see envy in your heart, if you see pride in your heart, to
just say I am not going to do it, I am not going to act on it, but I am not going to
look at it, that is not it, brethren. That is not enough because it is going to explode
in your hand. You can't do that. I will not be envious, I will not be proud, I will
not be mad. It doesn't work. You have to say this pride is sin It is sin, and I hate
it and I don't want it, and I want the potential for it ripped out of me. Not that I
won't do it. That's like sitting on an open fire saying I am not going to jump up,
and the fire gets hotter, and the fire gets hotter, but you say, I'm not going to
jump up, I'm tough, I am not going to jump up. Then that fire starts burning you
and all of a sudden you jump up and your are screaming and yelling like a lunatic.
Sin cannot be brushed under the rug, and there is no forgiveness if the sin is not
acknowledged, and the damage done acknowledged by both parties.
Reconciliation has to come, resolution has to come, a walking through has to come,
which puts the problem away. It dissolves it. It turns it into vapor, but it has to
be worked through with the two people. So we will watch John Bradshaw later
this afternoon. So brethren, let's lay aside every weight and every idolatry, every
one that you think must come with you but God doesn't think must come with you
or even if He does think must come with you it is not right thinking. When God
calls you, you pack up and you come, you answer His call. So leave all your idols
behind and leave your sin nature behind, even thought your sin nature is going to
harassing you every chance she gets, and let us run with patience. That word
patience, in my margin it says, with perseverance. Patience is not a good word.
I don't if this is the same Greek word that appears in the book of Revelation
several times, but I know that Greek word translated patience that is in the book
of Revelation really distressed me because. . . .Why? Because everyone who
doesn't have patience is condemned, but when I looked that word up in the Greek
I found out that it meant endurance. I may not have all that patience when I am
being tormented, but endurance I have and that is proven, 18-19 years in the
Lord, I have endurance, and in this life I have a lot of endurance. I don't always
have all the patience I would like to have, but I do endure no matter what
happens, even if I lost it and say something I should not say I still go on.
Endurance means you go on no matter what, you go on. If you succeed you go on,
if you fail you go on, if you are hurt you go on, if you are embarrassed you go on,
if you have a loss, if you suffer loss, you just go on no matter what. This word
perseverance in the margin makes me think this is probably the same Greek word
in the book of Revelation. Perseverance, endurance. Run the race with
endurance brethren.
Verse 2. Looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith. Now that
brethren is a very interesting phrase. It is very popular. You hear a lot of people
quoting it and talking about it. Now let me give you some fresh possible
interpretations of that scripture. The author and finisher of our faith. Jesus said,
I am the Alpha and the Omega, I am the beginning and the end. That is what He
is talking about, the author and finisher of our faith. The one who begins our faith
and the end of our faith. And what is our faith? Is the word faith talking about
the faith we have with our mortal mind? The faith of our mortal mind is as filthy
rags brethren. We not only cannot move a mountain, with the faith that we are
born with, the faith of our humanity. . . .well, you can get some thing
accomplished with that faith, but you see faith has to have a spiritual power
behind it. It has to have a spiritual power behind it, and the spiritual power
behind the faith that we are born with is Satan, it's witchcraft. If you have such
a confidence in yourself that you could be a success you might very well go out
and be a success in your own power. It's your own power, your own power is
Satan in the individual. so the faith that the scripture talks about is not the faith
that mortal man has, but it is the faith which is in Christ Jesus. You see, Jesus
Christ has given Himself unto us. He died to His existence in the flesh that could
have gone on forever so that He could be converted into a form whereby He could
give Himself to us, but He gives Himself to us in seed form and what He gives us
is our new faith. It is our faith. It is the faith that is propelled by the power of
Almighty God. It is the faith that keeps on going when our human faith fails.
Some people don't have much compassion on people who have failed in this world
because they really believe, and they have been taught that if you try as hard as
you can try you will surely succeed, but brethren that is not always true. Some
people try as hard as they can, but the spiritual forces opposing them in their life
that were upon them f rom birth are just too powerful for their own will power
and their own strength, and that is the truth. You teach your children to try as
hard as they can and you will surely succeed. Well, you really don't want to teach
them anything else. You don't want to teach them not to try, but the truth in this
world is that the insane asylums are filled with people that tried as hard as they
could and their mind broke, and the institutions are filled with people who tried
as hard as they could but their body broke. Then we have some people whose
mind and body broke. Some didn't try as hard as they could, but some did and
their own faith was not strong enough to overcome the negative forces of this
world that were directed towards them. We need to get a new faith brethren. We
need the faith of Jesus Christ. We need His life, His perfected overcoming life
dwelling in us and that is the faith that moves mountains. He is the author of our
faith. He is the Holy Spirit, the seed which is the beginning of our faith. The seed
which is no larger than a mustard seed, the smallest seed, the most humble seed
the scripture says. He gives Himself to us as a seed. He is the author. He is the
beginner. He is the beginning. He is the seed of our faith, of our supernatural
faith that has the potential to move the mountain that the serpent has raised up
upon which we abide, this visible physical world. He is also the finisher of our
faith. What is the finish of our faith? The author or beginning of our faith is His
union as the Holy Spirit with our human spirit, and the end of our faith . . . isn't
there a scripture that says, and the end of your faith is the salvation of your soul.
The end of your faith, the finish of your faith, the Omega, the end of the mystery
of God is the salvation of your beast nature. The word soul in the New Testament
has a different meaning than the word soul in the Old Testament. In the OT, soul
means a living thing. It's equivalent in the Greek is Zoe, life. But in the NT, soul
is speaking about the animal nature, the sin nature. The soul of the NT is the sin
nature. The salvation of your sin nature as depicted by the Seraphim, redeemed
serpents, standing around the throne of God saying, Holy, Holy, Holy. When I
first saw during a study in the book of Revelation that Satan would be
worshipping Jesus, it shocked me and I restudied and restudied, I thought it had
to be a mistake. Now years later I found out that we are the serpents. Oh, don't
shut off the tape! Jesus said to the Pharisees, you are vipers. We are the serpent,
and sometimes when we these meetings here I look around and I see people
manifesting, functioning, partaking, of these meetings, I don't mean a demonic
manifestation, partaking of these meetings, doing whatever they are doing,
praising God, some are playing instruments, some are sitting and listening and
singing. I look at people praising God, and it comes to me very clearly. This is
the serpent praising God. This is the serpent saying, Holy, Holy, Holy, God
Almighty. So, He is the author and finisher of our faith. He is the Holy Spirit,
and He is the mature Christ Jesus who was strong enough to impart life, to impart
everlasting life and to preserve this physical body. He is the seed, and He is the
full grown man. That is what it means. He is the seed, He is the manchild, He is
the full grown man that when He is abiding as our faith or our mind He has the
power to save us. Another word for salvation, preservation. He has the power to
preserve us from what? From hell and death, and hell has torment.
Looking unto Jesus, this is verse 2, the author and finisher of our faith who for the
joy that was set before Him endured the cross. despising the shame, and He sat
down at the right hand of the throne of God. Please notice that verse 2 is speaking
about Jesus, the human being, doesn't say Jesus Christ or Christ Jesus. Just
Jesus, the human being. He was the very beginning of the salvation that is
available to us today. The human man, Jesus, who was born with the Spirit of
God joined to His human spirit. He was the beginning of the mystery of God, of
Jehovah's salvation unto His people. I did not look up this word, endured the
cross, if I can I'll look it up before the evening service because I am convinced
that He did not feel pain on the cross so I will check that out and see if there are
any other possible translations for that word. I believe that Jesus of Nazareth had
ascended to a high spiritual place where His sin nature was completely under His
feet and non-functioning. All pain, brethren, is in the sin nature. There is no pain
when you are completely under the dominion of the mind of God. How can I say
that? Brethren, the mind is spirit. Mind is spirit, and the mind that is ruling in
a man rules this physical man through the manipulation of his brain. Occult,
occult. No, it is the truth. Brethren, all pain and all pleasure has its center in the
brain. And if that center is damaged you cannot experience that experience
whether it be pain or pleasure. There is a place in the brain that can affect your
taste buds, in your tongue, it affects your ability to walk, affects your ability to
talk, affects your ability to think, to reason, to be creative. The brain is the
controller of the physical body, and the mind is the controller of the brain. Now
there are certain things that the fallen mind of man can play on our brain or
program on our brain, and there are certain things that she cannot. Only five
percent of our brain is used, proof that Leviathan, our mortal mind, is very
limited in her ability to program and run programs through our mortal brain, but
Christ Jesus has access to the whole brain, and I do not believe Jesus of Nazareth
experienced physical pain on that cross. I believe He had full control of His brain
and all of the pleasure and pain center. Why was He crucified? I think the
scripture somewhere says, so that men would believe. But there is also an
interesting concept about all of His blood pouring out, all His blood poured out....I
heard someone preach, I never checked it out myself, I have no reason to believe
it is not true, that the way your bones collapse when you are crucified forces all
of the blood into your abdomen. I may not have it exactly right, and when the
Centurion threw a spear at Him the blood that came pouring out was His fallen
blood. Jesus went on into heaven. He now has flesh and bone. He was flesh and
blood. Now He is flesh and bone. Flesh and blood is in the animal body. Flesh
and bone is the spiritual body. Jesus of Nazareth was God. His mind was God.
His sin nature was completely inoperable, but it was God living in a body which
was produced by the sin nature before Jesus made it inoperable. The body that
Jesus of Nazareth lived in, the personality of Jesus of Nazareth, was produced by
the sin nature that He received from His mother before Christ Jesus matured to
the point that He rendered that sin nature inoperable. There is an evolution of the
God head, three stages of resurrection. If you cannot see the second stage surely
you can see that Jesus Himself said, I and my Father are one but my Father is
greater than I. There is a hierarchy, an evolution of the God head. Jesus went on
to a higher position of Godhood when He was glorified, and that higher position
had directly to do with the fact that He shed His animal body. He purged Himself
of His fallen blood and left the carcass behind and breathed Himself out of His
own volition. (turned tape over)
I will look it up on the dinner break and see what it says. Probably something to
do with the mind. Despising the shame, well I'll look that one up too. What's in
my spirit brethren is the shame that He despised was that animal body. Brethren
you may not know it, but it's a big issue, this body is a big issue. People hear me
preaching that we are coming out of the body, and they don't like it. The want
this body. Why do they want this body? What do they love about this body?
Answer: Lust Sheila: Lust, pleasure, that's correct. They don't love this body
because it gives them pain. They love this body because of the sensory
experiences that they have in it. they love the pleasures that come from this body,
and I will look it up during the dinner break, but that is what is in my spirit. He
despised the shame, this body is a shame. Brethren, this body is the fruit of
spiritual fornication. Now, if you are not a mature person you are totally
misunderstanding me. I'm talking about a spiritual shame. We are down here,
and we are living under God without condemnation, doing the best we can with
what we have got, but brethren from a high spiritual point of view where our
father is the condition that we are in is shameful, and I can say that to you without
condemning you. If you are condemned, you condemn yourself because I
condemn you not. If I don't tell you the truth I'll never get you out of here. We
are in a shameful condition, spiritually speaking. This whole world is a visible
example of what happened to us. What would be considered a shameful lifestyle
in this world? a hopeless drug addict, a hopeless alcoholic who lives on the streets,
a hopeless prostitute. That all is the type of what we are spiritually, but the Lord
doesn't condemn us. He tells us the truth. Jesus said to the Pharisees, I'll tell you
the truth and the truth will set you free. The Pharisees said, what do you know
that we don't know? I'll tell you, Pharisees, you are living in an animal body, and
you are the off spring of the serpent and although you are living in one of the
highest places available to you in this fallen world because the Lord has had
mercy on you and He spread a table before you in the valley of the shadow of
death, your life is still a shame compared to the fact that you were created to be
the Son of God, the immortal mighty Son of God, the existence you experience
down here is a shame, and if you are listening to this tape and you are condemned
you have completely misunderstood me, and you need to pray about this. It is like
telling a one year old baby that strips his clothes off and runs down the street, now
that is not right and it is a shame to do that, you should not do that, you should not
go around naked, but who is upset with a one year old baby completely exposed.
When you are 21 you will be arrested. The Lord has mercy on us, and He is
telling us this isn't right. Your condition isn't right, but I am accepting it because
you are spiritual infants but I am telling you, you can't stay this way. You can't
stay this way. I love you and I accept you while you do this thing, and I am even
saying, isn't that cute, but you can't stay this way. Why/ Because as you mature
spiritually, your physical condition becomes more and more of a shame. Jesus
despised the shame that was crucified on the cross. The fact that we are trapped
in this body, and we can't get out. The fact that we can't travel in the spirit, that
we need planes and cars and all the mechanical devices that we need to live in this
world, do you know that spiritually speaking all of our mechanical devices are the
equivalent of a wheel chair. We are supposed to be in a place where we think it
and it appears. He despised the shame, and He sat down at the right hand of the
throne of God. I know from our studies in the OT that shame is frequently
computed to the carnal mind. The shameful thing that needs to be covered is the
carnal mind, Leviathan. So He despised the mind that He was born with and put
it under His feet and rendered it inoperable and because He overcame by the
Spirit of Holiness, Romans 1:4, what did He overcome? The carnal mind that He
was born with. He is now set down at the right hand of the throne of God. He is
glorified.
Verse 3 For consider Him that endured such contradiction of sinners against
Himself lest ye be weary and faint in your mind. Ye have not yet resisted unto
blood, striving against sin. Now this is very interesting. For consider Him that
endured such contradiction of sinners against Himself....I don't know what that
means. I will take a look at it during the dinner break. But this, lest ye be weary
and faint in your mind. Let me back up. For consider Him that endured such
contradictions of sinners against Himself. The sinners opposed Him. The sinners
opposed Him. He endured a continuous barrage of attack from carnally minded
men who could not believe that He was valid. A lot of people just attack
everything that is different. They want you to conform. They want you to be like
them. He was very different, but more than being different He exposed their sins,
and they contradicted Him. Praise the Lord. I am just going by what the Lord
shows me. So consider Him that endured all this persecution by sinners lest ye be
wearied and faint in your minds. Brethren, what Paul is alluding to is that if you
are understanding this chapter, if you are going on to your sonship you are being
lied about, you are being persecuted, you are being contradicted, you are being
opposed. Sometimes people don't even know they are doing it. I feel it in my
spirit. I feel the opposition in my spirit. If I am manifesting Christ Jesus and
someone comes at me with a carnal statement it is like a punch, and it happened
again this morning and I am not going to cease from telling you about it. I had
to sit here for almost two minutes to get back up into the spirit again. I was
contradicted this morning. Every time I am trying to do something that Jesus
wants me to do, and someone doesn't want me to do it I am being contradicted.
You may not know why you don't want me to do it, you might think you have a
very legitimate reason to want me to stop what I am doing and respond to you.
You may not understand what you are doing, but the reality is that the mind
within you has risen up to contradict my commitment to the Lord at that moment.
so Paul is saying this chapter, this is for people who are going on with God. Don't
be surprised that people are contradicting you. Don't be surprised for consider
Him that endured all this contradiction of all these sinners against Him. They did
it to Him and they will do it to you. And it is good that you should consider Jesus
and what His experience was lest ye be weary and faint in your mind. If you think
it is just you brethren, if you think these hard ships of this journey is just
happening to you, if you take it personally, you are going to faint in your mind.
What does that mean to faint in your mind? It means to give up. It means you
become so overwhelmed in your mind that you give up. When people start
opposing you brethren, when people start contradicting you, I counsel you to tell
yourself all the time, I tell myself all the time, if it wasn't that person it would be
another person because we must be opposed. We must be opposed. Why? So
that we can overcome. Don't take it personally. The more personally you take it
the harder it is to forgive. You have to address the fact that someone has
damaged you, you can't deny it, they have done you hard, they have done you evil,
and maybe they have actually hurt you and you have to address that fact, but if
you could realize that if it wasn't them it would be somebody else I find it much
easier to deal with and to go on and forgive. It is like this is the way it is. a lot of
people don't know what they are doing a lot of the time, and that is o.k. for the
heathen but it is not o.k. for the Sons of God.
Verse 4 Ye have not resisted unto blood striving against sin. Now I have heard
that preached that no one has drawn your blood yet so people are persecuting you
and they are talking about you, they hate you, but no one has actually shot you
and drawn your blood yet, but brethren I don't think that is what that scripture
means. I think that scripture means. Let me get the exact words here. Ye have
not yet resisted striving against sin unto blood. You have not yet resisted striving
against your own sin nature to the point that that sin nature becomes a blood
offering into the Most Holy Place. We cannot enter into the Most Holy Place
without blood, and most Christians believe that we are entering in with Jesus'
blood, but we are. We are entering in by His blood because His blood has joined
to us and bringing forth Christ Jesus in us, because our God is now in the midst
of us, we have the strength by His blood to enter in with the blood of our own sin
nature. So if you are moaning and groaning and whining and complaining
because sister so and so put an arrow in you or brother so and so told a lie about
you, I am telling you says the scripture, you had better get your act together
because this isn't the real thing. You are going to be shot, and lied about and a
whole bunch of other stuff will happen to you until you take such authority over
your sin nature that you offer her up as a blood offering which enters you into the
Most Holy Place. So you are striving against sin? Don't worry about it brethren.
If it is not that sister it will be someone else. If it is not that brother it will be
someone else because you have not yet resisted unto blood. You haven't killed
your sin nature. Can you hear this? This is good advice. So if you think you are
having a hard time, look at Jesus and all that He went through. Don't weary and
faint in your mind and realize that you have not resisted your sin nature as Jesus
did to the point that the death of it was the offering that got you into the Most
Holy Place. Well, I hear somebody screaming, no you have to have an animal
without spot or blemish. That's true. We are purifying our sin nature before we
offer her. She has to be purified before we offer her up. It is called deliverance.
Deliverance is not for the heathen. Deliverance is for the Christian who hopes to
see Christ Jesus appear in Him, purifieth Himself, and at the right moment offers
up his purified animal nature. Now we can never get completely purified, but
the atoning blood of the Lord Jesus Christ takes us the rest of the way. I didn't
say that exactly right. We will be completely purified, but not by our own efforts.
We need the Lord Jesus Christ who has already overcome to help us arise to the
point where we become our own atoning sacrifice. When will that happen? When
Adam rises from the dead in us. And who is Adam? Christ Jesus. The NT says,
Christ Jesus. the OT says, Adam. He is rising from the dead in us, and when He
is risen from the dead, and His immortal mind is reigning over us again, within
us, we will be our own atoning sacrifice. The atoning sacrifice will be within us.
The Lord Jesus Christ is our atonement. He is coming to us as the seed. He joins
to our human spirit and reproduces His nature in us in the form of Christ Jesus
which is the resurrected Adam, and when Christ Jesus arises to full immortality
within us, He is the atonement for our sin nature and for the expression of our sin
nature which is this physical house that we live in.
Verse 5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto
children. My son, despise not the chastening of the Lord nor faint when thou art
rebuked of Him for whom the Lord loveth He chaseneth and scourges every son
whom He receiveth. Now brethren I told you off the tape this morning, this
message came by prophetic instruction from the Lord. Judgment is falling. I
believe it is falling everywhere. I believe it is falling on me too. The White
Throne Judgment, the merciful judgements of God which exposes our weaknesses
which are sin and helps us to overcome them and as we overcome them we put
them under our feet and we have taken one more step into our resurrection state
known as full stature. I don't know what's coming that I am preaching this today
but I don't want anyone to think that it's only about. . . we had something off the
tape, and it is not only about that person. This is for everybody. This is for
everybody in this fellowship and for everybody to whom the Lord brings this tape
and what it is saying to me is, don't be afraid but this is a positive thing, the hour
of the catching up is very near, He wants us to come up higher. I can't tell you
that it is full stature for you, I can't tell you that it is full stature for me, but I do
know this that He wants us all to come up higher from where ever we are He
wants us to go up to the next level, and the only way we get up there is through the
judgment of our sins so I am going to pray for everybody here today including
me. Father, in the Name of Jesus, I pray that we do not faint when you chasten
us, O God, but I pray that we endure with that chastening as good soldiers Lord
and that your nature is developed in us to the fullest degree that you would desire
to bring forth in us at this stage of our development and I pray that we all take the
victory Lord, and I rebuke our pride and our fear and our weakness and anything
in us that would run from the battle, and to the fullest degree that I am able I
impart strength to everybody here to stand in the face of the most horrendous
trials should it come to pass. I pray that you will be with us Lord in the fire, that
we should all be found overcoming in the power of your Spirit Lord and in the
strength of your nature, and I know that you would not be telling us about this in
advance if you weren't planning to help us so we look forward Lord to the victory.
In the Name of Jesus. Amen.
Verse 7 If he endure chastening God deals with you as with sons for what son is
he whom the Father doesn't chasten, but if he be without chastisement brethren
where all are partakers then are ye bastards and not sons. What does that mean,
that you are a bastard and not a son? It means that your existence has not been
fathered by the living God, that your foundation is not Jesus Christ but that you
have been fathered by the serpent and that your foundation is mortal and will
eventually be destroyed. Jesus Christ is the only foundation that is laid that shall
endure forever and once you get that foundation you have to build on it, you have
to build on it. If you are a son, you are building on that foundation but even if
your house comes down, even if in the storm your house comes down your
foundation, that part of you that is attached to that foundation, will be saved.
Your spirit will always be saved, but let us hope for the best that is available to
us in Christ Jesus.
Verse 9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us and we
gave them reverence. Shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of
Spirits and live. What that is saying is that when your natural fathers corrected
you, you honor them and they couldn't give you everlasting life, but the Father of
Spirits can give you everlasting life. Should we not subject ourself to His
correction. You see the mystery here is that the White Throne judgment of Christ
can be fled from. When you are a natural child and your father chastens you
there is no place to run. Your dad is going to get you. But the way this world is
set up those of us who are entering into Sons, those of us who are maturing as
young sons are physically mature people, and the Lord in this hour is not forcing
His judgment upon us like a natural father would do. He talks to us, He talks to
us in dreams, He talks to us in the scripture, He talks to us through preachers who
are preaching His Word, and He says, take the correction but if you run away
from what ever or who ever is bringing the correction in your life, if you flee from
that person I am going to let you go. I am not going to catch you in the wood shed.
I am not going to go after you like a natural father, and what happens when I let
you go? What happens to the person that the Lord doesn't go after? They come
under the Satanic judgment. You reap what you sow, and you come under the
judgment of Satan. So he says, won't you subject yourself to the Father of Spirits
and live. You see the Satanic judgment can kill you. If you are in subjection to
the White Throne judgment the only thing that will die will be your sin nature.
That would never kill your body or your existence in this world, but if you flee
from the correction of God you will be corrected brethren. You will be corrected,
and the one correcting you is Satan and she can kill you if the legal grounds....if
the chips are falling right. O Sheila believes in gambling. No brethren the OT
talks about lots. If your spiritual gene pool has a opening for you to be killed
prematurely or violently or painfully or whatever, Satan will pull your plug.
Jesus won't pull your plug. Jesus will kill your sin nature and plug up the holes
in your hedge.
Verse 10 For they indeed for a few days chastened us, our natural fathers, after
their own pleasure. That means according to their own carnal understanding of
righteousness. But He, the Father, chastens us for our profit for we might be
partakers of His holiness. This means that when our natural fathers chastened
us it was designed to hinder any inclination that we had to do ungodly deeds. the
chastening of our natural parents did not have the strength to impart holiness to
us. It has the strength to impart goodness to us. The chastening of our natural
fathers has the strength to incline us to choose good over evil, but the correction
of the Lord Jesus Christ has the strength to impart holiness to us, and in holiness
is immortality. Everlasting life means immortality and righteousness.
Verse 11 Now no chastening for the present seems to be joyous but it is grievous,
it hurts brethren, it is very painful and it is very hard, and it takes a very brave
person to accept it. Hard, it's grievous, painful. Nevertheless, afterward it yields
the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby. What
is the peaceable fruit of righteousness? Whose righteousness? The Lord Jesus
Christ's righteousness. Who is the fruit of righteousness? Answer: Mind of
Christ Jesus. Sheila: Christ Jesus. Christ Jesus is the fruit of righteousness, and
He is the one who brings us peace. This is a hard word. A lot of people aren't
going to like me for saying this, but peace is not in the Holy Ghost brethren.
There isn't any peace in the Holy Ghost. Well, I have the Holy Ghost and I am
peaceful. Well, maybe you were peaceful before you got the Holy Ghost. I was
in a room with a whole group of people that have the Holy Ghost the other night,
and they were in torment. I know they were in torment. Looking to have their
needs met, their emotional needs met. It is the fruit that meets your emotional
needs. The Holy Ghost won't do it. He may give you some good feeling, but He
is not going to. . . He is only a seed brethren. You need the full grown fruit if you
want fruit. If you want the peace that comes from righteousness, you need the
fruit. The seed won't cut it.
Verse 12 Wherefore, lift up the hands that hang down and the feeble knees, I am
not sure what that means but it is talking about strengthen yourself. There is not
a doubt in my mind, it is not talking about your physical hands and your physical
knees. It is speaking about your spirit, your emotions, possibly your carnal
nature which can get very dejected. Raise yourself up brethren and encourage
yourself in Christ Jesus. This is not forever. If you are going through a painful
time it is not forever. If you submit yourself to the Father of Spirits you will
surely yield the peaceable fruit of righteousness.
Verse 13 And make straight paths for your feet lest that which is lame be turned
out of the way, but let it rather be healed. What part of us is lame? Where are
we crippled? Our mind. Our mind is crippled. Our mortal mind called
Leviathan is a crippled mind. Remember what I said earlier. Leviathan only has
the strength to manipulate five percent of our computer, the brain, the computer
of this body, and Leviathan, our mortal mind is only strong enough to manipulate
or program or utilize five percent of our brain. That is pretty crippled brethren.
Walking the straight path, follow righteousness, let your walk, your life style be
righteous, lest that which is lame, Leviathan, your carnal mind, be turned out of
the way. What is that saying? There are people out there saying, I am a
Christian. I read the Bible every day, I tithe, I give out tracts, I do all kinds of
things, but you see it is o.k. to fornicate because this is 1996, and I am engaged
and I am going to marry this girl anyway, and it is o.k. not to return that money
that I owe the person because they wouldn't miss it anyway. That which is lame,
your carnal mind, is not being dealt with because you have to lay hold of your
carnal mind and bridle her. Giving out tracts, singing in church, putting your
body in front of a message and reading a Bible if you are not acting on it isn't
doing you any good at all. If you don't follow a righteous path, if you don't make
the righteous decision in every circumstance, I don't want to put you in any
bondage, you have to choose righteousness to the best of your ability. If you don't
that part of you which is lame, your carnal mind is going to do something that will
get you in trouble. And if you are high enough in the church you will make
headlines. Preacher runs away with the organist. Practice righteousness
brethren. When your life isn't dependent upon it, practice righteousness in the
little things, not only with money, not only with sexuality, practice righteousness
in how you relate to your brother and your sister, be honest in your dealings and
if somebody feels you have offended them deal honestly with their complaint.
Practice righteousness because every little effort at righteousness bridles
Leviathan and if you are not practicing righteousness in the little, every day nitty
gritty things of your life, if you know there is sin in you and you haven't confessed
it, if someone tells you that you have hurt them and you are denying it to their
face which is done throughout the church world, they are just like the world, when
it comes to a situation which is threatening your spiritual life you will not fine the
strength to be righteous. If you are faithful in the little things, He will give you
greater responsibility. If you can't practice righteousness in the little things, you
never hold the line when that big monster sticks his face in front of your face.
Practice honesty and submission to one another and a Godly compromise which
brings reconciliation and suffer long with your brother who you know is doing the
best they can even though they are driving you crazy. You will never stand when
the tornado comes. We are still in verse 13. And make straight paths for your
feet, walk a righteous life style lest that which is lame, your carnal mind, be
turned unto unrighteousness, be turned away from goodness into evil but let it
rather be healed. Let what be healed? Let that which is lame be healed. Don't
open the door for that which is lame to go from goodness to evil, but let it be
healed. How do you heal goodness? If you have a mind that is abiding in
goodness, has the potential to go into evil, so the scripture says, don't let it go into
evil, walk a righteous life style. So you are already good, how are you going to
heal it? What has to happen to your mind to heal it? You have to go on to a
righteous mind.
Let me review this issue of good and evil for you. Brethren, every human being
today is a mixture of good and evil. We are the Tree of the Knowledge of Good
and Evil, but everybody is not mixed in the same proportion. To understand this,
we can talk about a scale of 1 to 10. If you are abiding from 1 to 5 you could be
called an evil person. If you did enough evil deeds that you would be between 1
and 5 on this scale, we would call you can evil person. If you do enough good
deeds in proportion to your evil deeds to be between 5 and 10 then we call you a
good person, but good people have bad in them and the bad people have good in
them. When we say you are good or bad we are talking your predominant
characteristics. Is everybody o.k? So the scripture is saying there is something
in you that is lame. It is your mind. The mind you were born with is lame. But
you have got the Holy Ghost and you are pretty much doing lots of good works,
going to church and trying to be good to people, but if you don't bridle that which
is lame, if you don't direct it on the righteous path, you can't just let it go which
ever way it wants because you are singing in church on Sunday. You need to
know that the potential for evil in each of us is very great, and that if you don't
direct yourself that which is lame in you, your carnal mind, is more than likely to
go wandering off in the wrong direction. Therefore, since you are predominantly
good at this point don't let your carnal mind, that which is lame, go to the evil
side, but heal it and true healing is only the translation into the mind of Christ
Jesus. Your carnal mind has in it a part of Elohim's spirit, Cain that came out of
Elohim and is in your carnal mind. Heal her. You have to kill Leviathan and
extract Cain and restore her to Abel so that Christ Jesus can rise from the dead
in you. That is the healing of the lame mind. Be healed or be restored in the
spirit of your mind. It is also interesting that he uses the word lame because the
carnal mind, Leviathan, we have been finding out in our study in Genesis is called
a dumb animal. Our carnal mind is a reptilian dumb animal. An animal, DUMB,
that does not have the power of creative speech. That is why we have all these
machines in our society because we are lacking the power of creative speech.
Jesus.
Verse 14 Follow peace with all men and holiness. It says follow peace with all,
and the word men is in italics. And holiness without which no man shall see the
Lord. Brethren, in every situation strive for peace, strive for peace. Suffer any
loss that does not require a compromise of righteousness. If someone has your
seat let them have your seat. Righteousness is not injured if you got up to go to
the bathroom and when you came back someone else was sitting in your seat.
Suffer the loss, back off, do everything you can to avoid a conflict unless the issue
is righteousness. Then you stand in righteousness. Follow peace with all, but also
follow holiness. That means you don't compromise righteousness because without
holiness no man shall see the Lord, and the only way to holiness is through Christ
Jesus, the mediator, the man Christ Jesus, the only mediator between God and
man.
Verse 15 Looking diligently lest any man fall of the grace of God, lest any root
of bitterness springing up trouble you and thereby many be defiled. Lest any man
fail, I'm sorry, lest any man fail of the grace of God. What does that mean? It
means watching carefully, watching over our sin nature carefully so that
hopefully, now none of us is perfect yet but watching carefully, trying to keep our
new nature which is in Christ Jesus manifesting in us at all times hoping to
prevent our sin nature from manifesting to the best of our ability. Looking
diligently, watching carefully, that our new holy nature does not fail because of
the grace of God that He is going to be keeping us in righteousness. Because if
that happens we need to know that when our righteous nature fails we are facing
the threat of a root of bitterness rising up in us. So if our righteous nature fails
and Leviathan manifests, there is another scripture that says quickly, quickly,
quickly make amends with your adversary. Quickly before you are hauled before
the magistrate and wormwood judgment is cast upon you. Now look, if you have
done all that you could do to make amends and the other person is in the gall of
bitterness and is unreasonable your hands are clean, you are not responsible for
the other person. You just have to do the very best that you can do. A root of
bitterness will defile you. How will it define you? A root of bitterness strengthens
Leviathan, your carnal mind, and when your carnal mind is strengthened she
rises up and manifests through you, living through you, talks through you, thinks
through you, and when Leviathan is thinking through you and acting through you
and talking through you Christ Jesus is defiled. Why? Because for the carnal
mind to think, talk, and act through you she must have Christ Jesus under her feet
which is a defilement, and the true you is Christ Jesus so if your carnal mind is
thinking, talking and acting through you and she is defiling Christ Jesus by
forcing him under her feet, your true reality is Christ Jesus, and therefore, you
are defiled. Every time Leviathan puts Christ Jesus under, you are defiled.
That's why you have to confess your sins and repent so that Christ Jesus will
come....(end of tape 1)
HEBREWS 12 - EXHORTATION
#383 Tape 2
Under the old, under Jehovah's covenant with Israel they had many washings,
ceremonial washings to cleanse the body. We have the cleansing of the mind and
the spirit through confession of sins and repentance before our judge, the Lord
Jesus Christ who is merciful to forgive us our sins.
Verse 16 Lest there be an fornicator or profane person as Esau who for one
morsel of meat sold his birthright. That is a very heavy word brethren because
a lot of Christians have no idea what that means. I am going to try and put it to
you simply. If the Lord has asked you to do something, now I am not putting you
in any bondage saying that you have to be in church or you have to do this, but if
the Lord has asked you to do something and unless He gives me a personal word
and tells me that He's asked you, I don't know. You may know and you may not
know. You may have blocked it out by the pride of your own mind, but if the
Lord has asked you to do something, and you choose to do something else because
there is some profit in it for you or some gain in it for you or some pleasure in it
for you, you have sold your birthright as Esau has. If you're called to a ministry
and you don't come for your own motive, if one night you stay away from church
and the Lord told you to go, now I am not putting you in bondage, if the Lord told
you to and you chose not to go because you were afraid of displeasing man or for
whatever reason, whatever reason you choose to do something that will benefit
your carnal existence in this world rather than obey Jesus Christ, you have
profaned your inheritance and you are a bedfellow with Esau. For one morsel of
meat, profit, gain, satisfaction of the flesh, profanes the birthright. Now, I agree
with you it is very hard to tell. It is a very fine line. Should you work overtime
or should you go to church. It is a very fine line. Your answer is in the Lord
Jesus Christ. If your heart is truly open to whatever He will tell you. Some
people pray and they already know what Jesus is going to answer them before
they pray. That is a sarcastic statement. If they are listening to their own mind.
the Lord is looking for people who will obey Him. Obedience is better than
sacrifice. Jesus is our sacrifice. He is the sacrifice that has given us the atoning
blood, and by Him, because of Him, we have the opportunity to go on to spiritual
maturity, but the sacrifice of our own carnal mind is far superior. I got that
backwards. Jesus is our sacrifice but our obedience which results in the death of
our carnal mind, the subjugation and death of our carnal mind is far superior to
the free gift that we have received. The free gift is good, but there is something
better, and the truth of the matter is that everyone that doesn't move on into that
which is better will be falling backwards at some point. I don't know if anyone is
manifesting, it is all in the scripture that if you don't use what you have it will be
taken away from you. A big unfortunate problem in the church today is that a lot
of people don't know what to use it means. They think giving our tracts and even
casting out demons means they are using it so we pray that the Lord raises up
male teachers in the church, that the people might hear the truth and live and not
die.
Verse 17 For ye know how that afterward when he would have inherited the
blessing, talking about Esau now, he was rejected for He found no place of
repentance though he sought it tearfully with tears. I always thought that Esau
was not granted repentance, that was what I always thought that it meant, but it
doesn't look that way to me now. It looks like that he lost his inheritance and
there was nothing he could do to get it back, that the one who took it from him
would not change his mind, and that's what I got in the spirit, and I see that is
what it says in the margin of my new Open Bible. For a change of mind in his
father. So what that means is that Esau went under wormwood judgment. He
cried with tears. He said Father I'm sorry that feeding my face was more
important to me than my birthright. I change my mind. I want it back. Please.
His father would not reverse what he had done, and this is wormwood judgment.
The judgment was pronounced, his ministry was stripped from him, and there
was no turning back. I've seen ministries fall, and the Lord raises them up again
and I've seen other ministries fall and they never stand again. It all has to do with
the condition of the pastor's heart. Jesus is dealing with the hearts of men. There
is much I don't understand. There is a great deal I don't understand. I don't
understand how He makes His decisions, but I can't always see men's potential.
Jesus doesn't look so much at our sins as He looks at our potential to serve Him.
He is looking for people who have a strong potential to serve Him, and then He
goes and He offers Himself to them. If they come fine, if they don't He brings
them under judgment until they come because He knows that the offering of
Himself is the best thing that could possibly happen to those people.
Verse 18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched and that
burned with fire nor unto blackness and darkness and tempest. We are in a
different place than Esau was in. Esau came unto wormwood judgment and
actually Israel came under wormwood judgment also. Individual Jews have a
relationship, I believe in this hour, with the Spirit of Christ, but the Nation of
Israel lost the commission of carrying salvation to the world, and to that extent
they are under wormwood judgment. They lost their national office. But you are
not come unto the mount that might be touched. That is a strange way to put it.
I think it is saying, you have not come to the mountain that the Hebrews came to
that you couldn't touch because it says later on if an animal touched it they were
to be stoned and cast through with a dart. For ye are not come unto the mount
that might be touched and that burn with fire. That is the mountain where
Jehovah appeared to the Hebrews nor have you come unto blackness. I don't
know what the difference is between blackness and darkness is. I will see if I can
look it up on break, and get it on the tape. we will go back and put it on the tape.
Ye have not come to blackness or darkness or tempest, which I know is the storm.
Verse 19 And the sound of the trumpet and the voice of words, which voice they
that heard entreated that the word should not be spoken to them. When God
spoke from the mountain to the Hebrews, it was so terrifying that the people were
begging Him not to speak. That is what it says here. The entreated Him, they
requested that the word should not be spoken to them any more. Brethren, I
know there is a truth to this. People cannot bear this word. It is a miracle that
all of you who are sitting here are sitting here. It is a miracle. People cannot bear
to hear it. I was speaking to another pastor, he has a small fellowship in this area,
I just gave him my testimony, one of the miles apart of my testimony. He was
flipping out. They can't bear to hear what you go through to be a son and they
can't bear to hear this doctrine, they can't hear what's coming, they can't bear to
hear their condition or the process that is going to change their condition. They
can't bear it. I am told that a lot of people are afraid of me. I hope they are
afraid of Christ in me.
Praise the Lord. we just got back from our dinner break. I had a chance to look
at some of the scriptures that I questioned, and Lord willing, we are going to
finish Chapter 12 of Hebrews. I know it is a little late. I am going to try to make
it through. It is a very exciting message.
I looked into the Interlinear text with regard to verse 2 where it says that Jesus
endured the cross and despising the shame, I am still of the opinion of what I said
on the tape that He endured the cross and all that it meant, even if He didn't feel
any pain, surely it could not have been a pleasant experience, being abused and
beaten and spit upon and hanging there, and I didn't really take a lot of time to
pray about it, but I feel in my spirit that the shame that He despised was not the
shame of Him hanging there, but that He endured the cross because of His
shameful condition. Yes, the Son of God was in a human body, and that was a
shame unto the man who had ascended to the first stage of resurrection. He is
now higher than He was in the days of His flesh. He is emancipated from this
flesh, and I suggest to you that the shame spoken about in verse 2 is not that He
was hanging on the cross or as I've heard it preached, He just had a loin cloth on
and that He was naked. No, the shame is that the glorious Spirit of God in the
form of the mind of Christ was encompassed by an animal body, and He despised
that condition enough to endure the cross because He knew it meant His liberation
from this flesh. Help us Jesus. Raise up our mind, O God, let us think with your
mind O God that we might live. This is not life in this world. This is not life, this
is death. You may have a good existence in death, but it is not life. Life is glory,
it is glorious.
I also checked out verse 18, and that turned out to be very interesting. Verse 18
says, For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched and that burn
with fire nor unto blackness and darkness and tempest. Verse 19 And the sound
of the trumpet and the voice of words, which voice they that heard entreated that
the words should not be spoken to them any more for they could not endure that
which was commanded, and if so much as a beast should touch the mountain it
shall be stoned or thrust through with a dart. Verse 21 And so terrible was the
sight that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake. Let me tell you up front what
I believe is the truth of these scriptures. Paul's writings brethren are amazing,
but of course it is Christ Jesus rising through him. I told you many times he
switches over from carnal mode to spiritual mode with no warning within one
chapter. I've never seen it within one verse. Usually the whole verse is either
carnal or spiritual. He just goes back and forth. Brethren, if you don't have the
code to these scriptures you will never follow this man's writing. These are not
man's writings, and he is writing of Almighty God. First of all if you listened to
the earlier part of the tape I said, no this can't be, for ye are not come unto the
mountain that might be touched. Did not set right with me, but there is a negative
there, and my gut feeling which has proven out to be true is, yes, brethren, we are
come to the mountain that can be touched. Jesus said touch me. That is the same
Greek word that is translated handle. When Jesus said to Thomas, handle me I
am alive. We have permission to touch. Yes. Amen. And the second major thing
which is very subtle. I will give you an opportunity before I go on to tell me if you
haven't followed me. I will say it again as many times as necessary.
First of all, let me point out to you that the verse before verse 17 is speaking about
Enoch. Let's try and find out what Paul is talking about here. He is talking about
the chastening that is going to produce righteousness in us, and he is talking about
this process that is going to raise us up into Christ Jesus. He says starting in
verse 16, Now don't be a fornicator. You want to enter in, Paul says. I want you
to enter in. Don't fornicate. Now of course you don't fornicate with your body,
but Paul is talking beyond your body. He is talking about your mind, your spirit.
I want you to enter in brethren. Now don't fornicate and don't be a profane
person like Esau because verse 18, you are not where he was. This negative, not,
what he is saying is you are not like Esau. You have come to the mountain that
might be touched, and this word come to, the Greek word translated come to, it
can be translated to ascend to. You are ascending. We are ascending brethren.
We are not carnal people under a gifted anointing. We are rising from the dead.
We are different than Esau. We have an opportunity that he didn't have.
Brethren, don't fornicate. Don't do any kind of criminal activity with your mind
and don't despise your birthright because of something that pleases your flesh.
Because this is not for you. You have come to the mountain that might be
touched. I will go over this in detail so I am skipping a lot here. I am suggesting
to you that this is talking about Jesus Christ in verse 18, and I will give you the
Greek word. You are ascending to the one who might be touched. You are
ascending to the high place of the righteous judgment of God. Verse 19 You are
ascending to the sound of the trumpet. That is this message brethren, and the
voice of words which when they were heard, those that heard them. That word,
word is Logos. It is Logos. He's talking about the people who heard the Word of
God and when they heard it they couldn't bear it, and they begged the one
speaking, no don't perform what you are telling me in my life. They could not
endure that which was commanded, that if so much as a beast touched the
mountain they would be stoned. The words, or thrust through with a dart, are not
even in the Greek. And what it is saying is, this is a very interesting message in
that the Lord is giving it today. The message is, if you dare to injure the one who
is ascending you will be stoned, judgment. Why couldn't they bear to hear the
word? Because we are all carnal brethren, and we get mad at people and
sometimes we hate people depending on how immature you are, and if you lost
your temper and injury someone who is ascending you will be stoned. It is very
common in the scripture that there is always a way of escape, but it is not obvious
by this scripture. There is always a way of escape or God isn't a merciful God.
You have to confess your sin and repent. It is not written right here but it is a
truth of the scripture. The carnal mind of man doesn't say, oh well if I do
something wrong, if I injure one of God's anointed there is always a way of
escape. The carnal mind of man doesn't think that. Why? Because the man
who's mind is pride does not think in terms of repentance. Think of Simon the
sorcerer, Paul pronounced judgment upon him. You will be blind for a season.
Did he repent? I read those scriptures backward and forward. The man never
repented. His response to the pronouncement of judgment was, please ask the
Lord to lift this judgment of me. No repentance. Because the carnal mind of
man doesn't even think in those terms, but we who have an intimate relationship
with Jesus Christ know that no matter what we do, we could be cast down seven
times and we will survive because we know the secret. We not only know the
secret, but our God has given us power to confess our sins and repent so we not
only know it we have power to do it. So there is always a way of escape. But these
carnal people all that they heard, all their carnal ears heard was like, God if I
lose my temper, if I have a bad moment, and if I wake up on the wrong side of the
bed and I injury someone who is ascending I am going to get stoned unto death.
Stoning means death to the Hebrews. Death. Who could bear it? Who could
keep this law? They couldn't bear it, and also was being preached to them the
message that is being preached here I suggest to you. If so much as an animal
touched someone who is ascending. Brethren, if our animal nature so much as
touches someone who is ascending we are going unto judgment. Please God let it
be the White Throne Judgment. This is the whole principle of the two witness
company. The Lord sends people to you who He knows will abuse you and
mistreat you so that you can forgive them so that they can go under the White
Throne Judgment, so that you both can ascend into full stature. Isn't that
awesome? But you have to be at a place in your maturity where you truly forgive
these people, and in order for any human being to get to that place usually
requires a lot of hard times in your life. He is not going to give us anything that
we can't bear. I want to stay on my point here though. That is what verse 2
basically means.
Now here is the catch. I am suggesting to you in verse 20 that this is not talking
about the people in the desert. The KJ translation in my Open Bible tells me, I
have a reference in verse 19, and the sounds of the trumpet and the voice of the
words which voice that they heard entreated that the word should not be spoken
to them any more. And my reference is Exodus 20:19, And they said unto Moses
speak thou with us and we will hear but not let God speak with us lest we die. I
suggest to you that verse 19 is speaking about the words that Jesus Christ spoke,
and the people that could not bear it were all the people that left Him when He
said, ye must eat my flesh and drink my blood. They could not bear His words
brethren. You want to know something, I head it preached several years ago, and
I believed it up until this minute that the reason that all these people left Him was
because they were carnal and they thought He literally meant that they should
literally eat His flesh and blood, that He wanted them to cannibalize Him.
Brethren, these were Orthodox Jews that were following Jesus. I no longer
believe that. I believe that they understood exactly what He was saying to them.
You have got to eat my flesh and drink my blood. Your life must line up with my
life, and they could not bear it. They didn't want His life. They didn't want His
life brethren. The were horrified by his life. They walked away because they did
not want His flesh and they did not want His blood and they knew very well that
He did not mean cannibalism. They did not want to walk the walk. I told you this
morning that full stature is a walk, not a rapture. You have to walk into the
Kingdom, and they didn't want the Kingdom badly enough to walk through what
they had to walk through to get there. I am suggesting to you that verse 20 is
speaking about Jesus and all those that followed him. There were thousands that
followed Him. By the time He was hanging on the cross nobody was left. There
were some who didn't want to give up marriage, some that didn't want to give up
children, some that didn't want to give up their riches and material possessions
of this world, but by the time He was hanging on the cross there wasn't any body
who was willing to walk this walk. Even for the promise of immortality. That's
why the Lord is going to be taking people against their will. Nobody wants to go
especially if your life is tolerable here on this earth. Some people are very happy
with their lives. Some people are very content with this existence here especially
if they have this fantasy that they are going to go to heaven when they die. Who
wants this? Giving up everything. Who wants it, to be persecuted and lied and
talked about. No personal life, who wants it? Very, very few, and the only ones
who do want it are people who have been severely wounded in their personal life.
People who are happy with their personal life don't want it, they don't want Jesus'
life. They want what they have.
Now Verse 21 says, And so terrible was the sight that Moses said, I exceedingly
fear and shake and quake. So when I got to that verse I really thought I had this
revelation here, and I thought that Exodus revelation was just a
misunderstanding. When I saw the word Moses I said, Lord did I make a mistake
here? I was so sure in my spirit that I had it right. When ever you see a
contradiction in the scripture brethren, it must be reconciled, but you have to
pray about it because you never know. Now look at what the Lord showed me.
In verse 19, it says they could not bear the words and that word is Logos. In verse
21, it says and so terrible was the sight. Moses saw it, but Jesus' disciples heard
it, and if you look closely at verse 19, I don't have all the numbers for you tonight
but these words that say, The voice of words which they heard is speaking about
spoken language, spoken human language which is heard and understood with the
ears. It is talking about something that is spoken by a man, not even a voice
coming from heaven. That is what the indication of the scripture is. So there is
the key. There is the code. Anybody not following me? Moses saw what he saw
and what the children of Israel saw terrified them, but did the children of Israel
hear Jehovah speak? Did they hear the Logos speak? Did they hear Him
speaking in their language? No. The got the word through a mediator. Jesus'
disciples heard very God speak to them through the man Jesus. Anybody not
following? Everybody o.k? So what am I saying? I am saying first of all verse
18 is not translated correctly. It is translated negative and it is positive. Second
of all I am saying verse 19 is not talking about the children of Israel in the desert,
but it is talking about Jesus and His followers, verses 19 and 20, and verse 21 is
the key that proves that the prior verses were not talking about the Hebrew
children and then verse 22 continues as a witness to verse 18 which says, But ye
are come unto Mount Zion and unto the city of the Living God. So verse 18 says
if you are reading it by the KJ, that you are not come to the mountain that can be
touched, but you are coming to Mount Zion. It doesn't make any sense brethren.
I don't know if you can hear it right now, but it doesn't make any sense. We are
coming, we are ascending to the mountain that can be touched and the name of
that mountain is Mt. Zion, the heavenly city. So I don't have every word as I
usually do, but I will go over it with a little more clarity and then hopefully we will
just go through with this. It is very exciting for me. Hope it is exciting for you.
Jesus.
Hebrews 12:18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched and
that burned with fire nor or you come unto blackness and darkness and tempest.
I suggest to you that is an unacceptable translation. First of all the Greek word
translated, come to, means to ascend, and the words, unto the mount, are not in
the Greek. For ye are ascending. Unto the mount are not in the Greek. That
might be touched. You are ascending brethren so that you might be touched by
God. You are ascending so that you might have a relationship with Jehovah, and
as I told you earlier the negative participle no, even in the Interlinear it is the first
word in the Interlinear, and what it means is, No you are not like Esau. What do
you mean? Esau, no matter how much he cried did not find repentance. His
father did not change his mind. That is not your condition brethren. You are
ascending to a place where you can be touched by Jehovah. You are not under
wormwood judgment. No, you are not Esau. You are ascending so that you might
be handled by Almighty God. This Greek word is Strong's #5584 and there are
three other scriptures in the New Testament in which it appears, Luke 24:39,
Behold my hands and my feet that it is I myself, handle me and see for a spirit
hath not flesh and bones as ye see me have. Handle me, be intimate with me, be
close to me. Acts 17:27. This same word is translated, feel. That they should
seek the Lord and haply they might feel after Him or they might handle after Him
or they might touch Him and find Him though He be not far from everyone of us.
Acts 17:27, That they might handle, that they might look for a relationship with
the Lord where they would be handling Him, where He would handle them and
they would be handling Him, and Heb. 12:18 says, For you are not like Esau. You
are ascending to a place that you might handle God and be handled by Him. 1
John 1:1, That which was from the beginning which we have heard, which we
have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon and our hands have handled
of the Word of Life. Brethren, we are ascending to the place where we will be
handled and we will handle. Absolutely wrong translation. Now look at the rest
of this. The next word, And that burned, Strong's #2545 means to burn with fire,
and the next word in the KJ says, with fire. Strong's $4442 it merely means fire.
The KJ translators translated it #2545 and that burned, because it doesn't make
any sense to burn fire with fire. Now, does it make any sense to say you are going
to burn fire with fire. Let's hear someone some up with an explanation for this.
How are you going to burn fire with fire? Answer: the only thing I can think of
is there are different intense heats of the fires, there is a hotter fire, or maybe that
fire would consume the lesser fire. Sheila: Well, you are close, but brethren,
Satan is a fire. Satan is dry ice. He is a solid fire. You touch him and you get
burned, but he is not the purifying fires of the Lord Jesus Christ who was the
Lake of Fire. Now I suggest to you that the Lake of Fire is going to burn Satan's
dry ice and melt it. Answer: So it is God consuming him in a lesser fire. Sheila:
O.K., a lesser fire, God, a lesser fire, O.K. Answer: And it is not as hot as God's
fire. Sheila: That's true but it is not only as hot. It is a totally different. . . I am
going to have to think about this. I don't want to go into any big thing. What I am
seeing right now is that it is not really that they are the same, but one is more
intense than the other. They are two different kinds of fire, and we know in the
OT that the scripture talks about strange fire, and that when you offer fire before
the Lord it has to be the fire that's offered by the priest and anyone who tried to
offer strange fire would be instantly killed so there is a stranger fire in the
scripture. (Someone makes a comment off mike). Sheila: I think it is probably
the serpent, but I am not sure. I really have to think about these things. I don't
think the fire is the carnal mind. I have to sit down and think about these things
because we will see in this very verse it is also talking about the tempest so I am
not really sure who is who, and I get confused, but Satan gets the idea when I
preach this message. Satan is the sea so maybe the serpent is the wind. I am not
really sure, but it doesn't matter if I get it mixed up. Get the message, Satan. If
the serpent is the wind and Satan, well there is no water here. Well I'm not going
to spend too much time on this right now.
To burn fire with fire, it is the fire of Almighty God burning the serpent's strange
fire, strange fire. I would say that the serpent is fire because Jehovah appeared
to, or it must have been Elohim, appeared to Moses at the burning bush, and so
apparently a spirit can appear as wind or as fire depending on the function that
He is performing at the time. I would say the serpent is the fire. That is the way
it looks at this time.
You have come to the mountain that you might be touched and that burned with
fire nor unto blackness. The word, nor, brethren is Strong's #3532. It is not a
negative particle. There is a series of small words in almost every language, it's
in the Greek and the Hebrew. I think this is the Greek word kai, and it can mean
a multitude of things. It can mean, and, but, indeed. Any of these connecting,
they call them copulative words, but there is no way that this word has ever been
a negative particle, but it is a word that translators do take translator's license
with. It is like a wildcard, but to make it a negative particle - not it is really not
a negative particle. The KJ translators took a lot of liberty, a lot of license to do
this. It is not a negative. They took a positive sentence and made it negative,
that's what they did. They took a lot of license brethren. We are translating this
word, and. And again, please anyone hearing this tape for the first time I am not
in any way knocking the KJ translators. What I am saying when I say things like
this, what I am saying is, they took a lot of license. You really have nothing to
complain about with me. I am not doing anything different than the KJ
translators did, and I may not be taking as much license as they did. That's all
that I am pointing out when I show you these things, the people who have an
idolatry for the KJ translation So the word, nor, we are translating it, and. Unto
blackness, this Greek word is Strong's #1105, and it can't be translated blackness.
It is equally translated cloud or thick cloud. Brethren, who is the cloud in the
scripture? Who do clouds represent in the scripture? Answer: Is that the saints
or the sons of God? Sheila: Yes, Jesus is represented as a cloud and the sons of
God are clouds. In the OT Jehovah is typified as the nimbus. I did not have the
time to look up this word. In the Greek Lexicon they showed the two Hebrew
words that this Greek word was a translation of. If I have the time I look it up in
the Hebrew Dictionary, but they did not give the number and that means I have
to look under the letters and I am a little slow at finding Hebrew words in the
Lexicon without a number, and you are all in here waiting for me so I didn't check
it out. Whether or not this Greek word could be a translation of the Hebrew word
that's translated nimbus, the dark rain cloud that is filled with rain. It typifies the
latter rain, the judgments of God that will appear upon the earth. Thayer's
Lexicon did say that this word can be translated cloud or thick cloud, and I
suggest to you that it is speaking about the Lord Jesus, and we will translate it
that way. I don't know of any scripture that equates a cloud with the enemy. If
anyone hearing this tape knows of such a scripture, please let me know.
So Strong's #1105 translated blackness, we are translating the sons of God or the
Lord Jesus. And the word darkness, Strong's #2217, Thayer says is used of the
blackness of the nether world, and we are translating that hell, and then we have
the word tempest, meaning storm or whirlwind. It is the only time it appears in
the NT. I have found that on the occasion when we are dealing with the word that
only appears once, even if it appears two or three times, but it only appears once
in the whole scripture the probability that it is a word which is a symbol for some
spiritual statement is very great. It is not very common that the Lord uses a very
common Greek word to indicate a spiritual principle or a spiritual truth. I find
that He will take a word that it's the only time it is in the scripture. That's a
mystery, but that is a clue. When I see a word and that's the only time it is
appearing, to me it must have a prophetic meaning. The Greek word translated
tempest. This is the only time appears in the Greek text, and it means storm or
rolling ? Now there is no easy way to do this brethren , but I want to tell you
that I took all these words I just talked to you about and I put them together and
this is what I got, and I rearranged them. This is what I got: No, you are not like
Esau. You are ascending so that you might be touched or to the one who might
be touched who, in a thick cloud of judgment, burned the serpents fire and He
also burned hell and He also burned Satan, the tempest, I may have that
backwards, I have to work on that, with the fire of God. Where did I get the fire
of God from? Two different kinds of fire. The serpent's fire and God's fire. No
you are not like Esau. You are ascending to the one who might be touched who,
in a thick cloud, burned the serpent's fire and He also burned hell and He also
burned Satan, the tempest, with the fire of God. That's right. He did burn Satan
with the fire of God. What happened when He burned Satan with the fire of God?
What form does Satan take? Answer: The waters. Sheila: Yes, Satan is the sea.
Yes you can burn water, the sea, and it boils and evaporates. He burned the
serpent's fire, that's her spiritual power. He burned Satan's waters, and He
burned hell, and you want to know where he burned them? The tempest, I believe
the tempest is Satan because that Greek word that's translated tempest it can also
be translated whirlwind, and there is a scripture that says they sowed the wind
and reaped the whirlwind and whirlwind can be judgment in the scripture. It can
be judgment. Of course, Jehovah appeared in a whirlwind to Job but of course
that was judgment. He appeared as judgment to Job. So Satan is the one who
was executing the judgments upon unregenerate men, and I am going to take the
position at this time that the tempest in verse 18 of Hebrews 12 is speaking about
Satan. So the Lord Jesus Christ burned the serpents fire, that's the serpent's
spiritual power. That's as if to say Moses' snake swallowed up the other snake.
The Lord Jesus' spiritual power defeated the serpent's spiritual power. How did
Jesus' spiritual power defeat the serpent's spiritual power. The serpent tried to
kill Him brethren, tried to claim Him but the power of the Spirit of Christ that
was operating in the Lord Jesus Christ burned the serpent's power when He was
raised from the dead by the Father. And hell, of course, is speaking about the
carnal mind that He inherited from His mother. The tempest, the whirlwind, the
judgment of God is Satan. Jehovah sent Satan to Job. Satan mediates the reaping
and sowing judgment. So Jesus defeated every power and principality that He
inherited from His mother. He overcame them all. He made an open show of
them. They had no power to keep Him in the grave of His physical body. The
issue was that they didn't even have the power to kill Him, He was already risen
from the dead. He said no man could kill him. He would have lived forever so the
victory was not that they couldn't kill him. The victory was that couldn't. . .
.someone is going to misunderstand what I am saying. The victory which Jesus
received because death couldn't claim Him happened before the crucifixion when
He rose from the dead. When Adam rose from the dead in the man Jesus of
Nazareth death was defeated. he could have lived forever. The victory at the
cross was emancipation from the prison house.
Hebrews 12:19 And the sound of the trumpet. . . Now this is the only comment in
the scripture, from verse to verse it is the same sentence. Whether you are
ascending to the one you are able to touch or who wants to touch you, and you are
also ascending to the sound of the trumpet. That Greek word translated trumpet
can also mean report or rumor. There are all kinds of rumors in the earth today,
brethren, if the Sons of God are going to stand up, you are ascending to the one
who wants to touch you. You are ascending to the one who you can touch. You
are ascending to a place where you can hear the rumors and the reports, the true
doctrine. You can't hear it if you are not ascending. That is the trumpet. The
trumpet is the message. And you are also ascending to the voice of words. There
is a voice of the spirit. There are all kinds of voices, but this is a voice of words.
The voice of spoken language, you are ascending to the place where you can
understand the spoken doctrine of Christ. Which when they heard it, they
entreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more. this Greek word
translated entreated means that they refused it, they shunned it, they avoided it.
It is a very strong word. They cast the one who was speaking it out of their life,
and said, don't talk to me like that. They didn't want it spoken to them any more.
Now this Greek word translated spoken doesn't mean spoken. It means to be
joined to or to be gathered to one's fathers, which in the scripture means to die.
The people that heard the doctrine of Christ from Jesus and Paul and maybe the
other apostles said, don't say those things to me because I know they mean that
I must die to this existence, and I am responsible for everything that I hear, and
I know enough about the Word of God to know that when words like this come to
my ears they are going to start moving in my life. Don't talk because your words
are spirit and your words are life and when you speak these words to me it is
going to become a reality to me, and I don't want it. Don't sow your seeds in my
heart. I don't even want to know that it is a possibility. I just got married, I just
bought a farm, I just got a new pair of oxen, all I want is my Cadillac and that you
should heal my daughter, and then leave me alone. They shunned and avoided the
one who was saying these things to them. They refused to have a relationship with
them that the word, and that word is Logos the Word of God, should not be
spoken or should not be joined to them so that they should not have to be gathered
unto their fathers and die to this life.
Verse 20 For they could not endure that which was commanded. They could not
bear this ? You know brethren, I don't know how this happened to me that this
word is not grievous to me, but I guess it was at one time. I do remember one
incident going all the way back when the Lord first called me that someone said
to me, well what if you are not going to get married again, and I was really upset
at that and you know what I said to them, don't even say the words. That's what
this is talking about. I said why wouldn't God give me a husband. Don't even
speak the words, I don't want to hear it. That is what I said to the person who
told me that who I now believe had a Word of Knowledge that I would not marry
again. Don't even suggest it, don't even whisper it. For they could not endure that
which was commanded, and what was commanded was that if a beast, not if so
much as a beast, but if a beast so much as touched the mountain or the one who
was ascending that that animalistic person could be stoned to death and the
words, or thrust through with a dart, are not in the Greek. Why would they add
a whole phrase like that? The only answer that I could come up with and it is up
to you whether you receive it or not is that the translator's carnal mind were at
work, and they wanted, now these translators, this was a conscious thing that was
operating in them, but some how Leviathan thought that if he could put that extra
phrase in there nobody would be smart enough to look up in the Interlinear and
find out what this verse was really saying, that if you injury the Son of God that's
ascending, that's not perfect yet, if you injury the one who is ascending you're
going to be stoned. Judgment is going to fall on you, and it is falling today and it
is falling more and more rapidly, and you know what amazes me and there is
nothing I can do about it because I cannot let myself get upset, I will not let myself
get upset, that this is God's righteous judgment I will not let myself get upset.
What amazes me is that with judgment falling on every side I haven't yet found
anyone outside of a deep group like this, and we are very few, that even have a
thought crossing their mind that maybe they should repent. They are all blaming
it on the devil. They are blaming everything on the devil. Just amazes me. And
a part of me wants to go and knock on their door and get down on my knees and
say, please, please repent, that this should not happen to you, but I know that is
just foolishness and that is my female side because they would probably just kick
me in the teeth and tell me that I am some big witch that brought all this trouble
on them.
This Greek word translated mountain. The idea of the word is that it means to
rise or to rear up, and that is my suggestion to you what the true translation is.
They could not bear what they were commanded to do. What were they
commanded to do? They were commanded to stop sinning, and how do you stop
sinning? You have to start to kill Leviathan. They could not bear it. Why?
Because Leviathan fights with much pain and then they found out if they did not
do as they were commanded, and if they didn't start to bridle in their carnal mind
and that carnal mind injured someone who was rising that they would come under
judgment. They could not bear it. Brethren, this message was preached to the
early church.
Verse 21 And here is where the confusion comes in, but the confusion is only to
the people who have carnal minds. For people who are still carnal who are not
on this path, so they believe all these verses had to do with Moses and the children
in the wilderness. I don't see anything lost, but for those who are ascending we
must know the truth that this account of Moses in verse 21 was merely a
comparison, was merely a parable, merely a second witness that God is an
awesome God, and we are told in verse 21 that Moses, now Moses didn't hear
Him but Moses saw Him, and when Moses saw Him he said it was so terrible, and
these words in the Greek mean that he was scared half to death, and started to
shake, but Moses didn't hear Him, Moses saw Him. Somebody is saying Moses
heard God, what are you talking about? Moses did not hear words spoken from
a man as is indicated in verse 19. Moses heard from God, he heard from the
Spirit of God. He did not hear the words spoken by a man in the person of our
Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. As a matter of act, I don't even know if Moses had
this message. The scripture says that the prophets didn't understand their own
message. Although Moses must have had some of it because we are told in the
book of Jude that he struggling against his own carnal mind. I don't know how
much Moses knew. He may have had this message.
Verse 22 Now verse 22 witnesses to verse 18. You are not where Esau is. You
are ascending unto Mt. Zion, the City of the Living God, the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels. And Mt. Zion is the high place of
Jerusalem. It means you are ascending to the spiritual place of the City of God,
and these words an innumerable company, the word innumerable really means
10,000, and I checked our records for our Bible numerology and 10,000 is
referring to the spiritual body. One thousand is referring to the completed human
spirit, the human spirit that is joined to Jesus Christ. It has matured into Christ
Jesus. That is 1,000, and 10,000 is speaking about the spiritual body. Jesus who
was Christ in the days of His flesh now has a spiritual body, and that spiritual
body is what we call an angel. That is what an angel is. Jesus was made a little
lower than the angels. He was born in the prison house of human flesh. But that's
what an angel is brethren. It is the mind of God with a spiritual body, and there
is an angel inside of us. He is our New Man, but we don't have the power to send
Him. He sends us. Sometimes He leaves our body and does whatever He does,
but as far as I know I don't have any control over any of His activities. We know
that He left Peter's body and freed him from jail. There are a lot of interesting
verses in the book of Acts that the Lord has really given me a curiosity about. I
just don't know what to do first. We are in the middle of Genesis 4. We are in
the middle of Genesis 7. I don't know what to do first, but I looked up some of
these scriptures in the book of Acts and they are not as they appear. There is
some very strong spiritual material in the book of Acts, and there were a lot of
very supernatural things going on in the early church that either they were
written when they were written, well they were written in Greek and Aramaic,
and then it was translated into Greek. Either it was written in a specifically coded
way or the translators just did not understand what they were saying. I am not
sure. What we are preaching here was going on in the early church, and it is in
the book of Acts. Does everybody here understand that what I preach here is not
just a question of curiosity or what we wold like to hear next. Everything that is
preached here is being worked out in our lives, and the Lord wants someone to
stand up in full stature even more than we do so what I preach here is according
to His program which is specifically designed to walk us through into the
Kingdom, and I can't keep up with my own curiosity. If I could do the work I
could have you here seven nights a week and I could not preach it all. If I could
do the work. I am like that rock in the wilderness. All I do is open up the books
and the revelation is just pouring out. I am only limited by my humanity which
is very frustrating.
So what are we saying about verse 22? But you are not called to this, you are not
called to fear, you are not called to what Esau was called to but you are called to
come up to Mt. Zion, and you don't have to be afraid of it. To the City of the
Living God, to the spiritual body, and to the spiritual body of angels. You are
called to be angels. We are called to be angels brethren. We are called to be
angels.
Verse 23 Continuing with the same thought. To the general assembly and the
church of the first born. You see, Jesus of Nazareth is the first man to be born
again. We have got millions of people running around saying that they are born
again, and they are not born again. Jesus is the only man that was born again.
Just as we exited our mother's womb and were born the first time, the spiritual
life which is growing inside of us will exit this womb which we are. The new birth,
the second birth is out of our spiritual life which is maturing within us, and you
are not born until you exit the womb. We are not born again brethren. To the
general assembly and the church of the first born which were written in heaven.
That Greek word translated written means copied or enrolled. What they means
is we are following Him into heaven. We are copies of Him. We are spiritual
clones of Him. What does that mean? Well He has engrafted His life to us. Now
in our humanity clone is a bad word. Clone means that you are an exact duplicate
of someone else. You have no mind or personality of your own. But it is o.k. to
be clone of Jesus Christ. Even though we have an exact duplicate of His nature
somehow it works out that we are still expressing a variety of characteristics. I
don't know exactly what it is going to be like. I know we are not going to be
mindless clones. We are going to be very creative. I am not sure what our
experience will be.
And to God, the judge of all, and this God I suggest to you is not God the Father
but God Jesus Christ. Why? Does anyone know why this wouldn't be God the
Father and to God, the judge of all? Anybody have any idea? Question? Would
that mean Jesus. Sheila: I am suggesting to you that it means the Lord Jesus and
not the Father. Does anybody know why I am saying that? Question? Because
the scripture says the Lord Jesus will be the judge. Sheila: Amen. All judgment
is given unto the Son. Amen. Very good. And also to the spirits of just men made
perfect. I suggest to you that should be justified men, the spirits of justified men.
We have to be justified before we are made perfect. First, we are reconciled to
Jesus and then we are justified when His spirit engrafts to us and then we are
perfected, three stages of resurrection. And please know that it is our spirit that
is justified, and that it is our spirit that is perfected, and this personality is not
perfected and this body is not perfected, and I am sorry all you people that have
dreams about going into full stature and finding your body to be that of Marilyn
Monroe or great male actor I don't know what effect full stature will have on our
body, but I know that the body is for the Lord and not for fornication, and
eventually we will be emancipated from this flesh.
Verse 24 And to Jesus, now we are ascending unto Jesus, the mediator of the New
Covenant and to the blood of sprinkling that speaketh better things than that of
Abel. Now this is how I got into this whole study. I said Abel. What is He talking
about Abel for? We are ascending to be where Jesus is so as the mediator of the
New Covenant, first of all let me remind you of what the New Covenant is.
Brethren, the New Covenant is immortality. The Old Covenant is the forgiveness
of sin because of faith in Jesus Christ. The Old Covenant comes in two stages.
First to the Jew and then to the Greek. The forgiveness of sins because of a
covenant with Jehovah through Moses to the Jew. The forgiveness of sins by
faith. We still have a sin nature, but sin is no longer imputed unto you during the
time that Jehovah made His covenant with the Nation of Israel, and to the Gentile,
to the Greek, sin is no longer imputed unto you because of your mediator, the
Lord Jesus Christ, but they are both the Old Covenant. They are both the fig tree
influenced by the Spirit of Christ or the Holy Ghost. The New Covenant is
immortality, and immortality eventually requires the shedding of this body and
all of its activities and all of the activities of this world. Oh, don't say any more.
I don't want to hear those words. Sorry. So we are ascending to where Jesus is
who is the mediator of immortality. He is the doorway to immortality and to the
blood of sprinkling. Now this is very interesting because the Greek word
translated sprinkling means sinners. It means sinners. He is talking about the
blood of sinners. Where in the world do they get sprinkling from? It means sin.
Brethren, I suggest to you it is another witness to the teaching here that we enter
the Most Holy Place with our own carnal mind as our sacrifice. It is our own
human blood that we bring in as a sacrifice. How can you bring in an unclean
thing as a sacrifice into the Most Holy Place? Brethren, our unclean blood that
we have completely dominated and controlled and rendered incapable of sinning
is now clean because the resurrected Adam in us is atoning for our sins. Let me
say it again. You can bring the blood of your carnal mind and eventually the
blood of this flesh body as an offering to enter into the Most Holy Place because
Adam who is raised from the dead in us, the New Testament calls Him Christ
Jesus, because immortality has been resurrected from the dead in us and is
atoning for our wild animal. Where did we hear that? Where did we learn that?
Anybody know the scriptures we learned that in? The chapter, the book, anybody
know where we learned all this? Where did we learn all this? Somebody? What
book is this information in? Nobody? Genesis Chapter 6 and 7, the account of
Noah's ark. When Adam rose from the dead in the man Noah, Noah became an
ark and the resurrected Adam atoned for the sins of his carnal mind and of his
flesh body and Adam became an ark that contained the glory of God. The blood
of sprinkling. The correct translation is the blood of sinners. The word that
speaketh can be translated preach, and talking about better things is speaking
about stronger, more advantageous, more noble, more excellent, speaking about
the things of the spirit, of the immortal Jesus Christ. I want to suggest to you that
what Paul is saying here is that there are better things waiting for us brethren.
We are called to Mt. Zion, we are called to the one that we are allowed to touch
so that we could preach a better word than Abel preached. I am not sure who is
preaching to you here. I am not sure whether it is Abel or Adam. To tell you the
truth I really don't know, but what this word is saying , the Lord wants us to
ascend to Mt. Zion to the one that we are allowed to touch, to the one who
completely overcame His whole sin nature in his physical body. He wants us to
come where He is so that we could preach a message that is more advantageous
than Abel's message. Now I don't know who I am. I do know I am not Cain. The
church world is filled with preachers to whom Cain is preaching. I know I am not
Cain. If this is Abel preaching to you, then the Lord is saying, when I enter into
full stature you haven't heard anything yet. Anybody not know what I just said?
Sort of makes me think this is Adam preaching to me. I don't want to be naive
about this. Maybe we have just got our little toe in the water. I don't know, but
there has got to be more. we can't possibly have the whole thing. If we had the
whole thing we would be in full stature so we don't have the whole thing. When
I first looked at this verse I said, Lord are you telling me get ready for more
revelation? I am not really sure what's going on here. This message was
specifically ordained for today. It is talking about judgment and now it is talking
about revelation. doctrine that is more advantageous. Advantageous for who?
Advantageous for the people. Maybe in full stature there is a doctrine, and it
would probably be the same doctrine, but a higher measure of doctrine that will
raise people up to full stature in no time. Maybe the word will be so powerful that
you will be popping up like plants instead of sitting here for four and five years
struggling with your sin nature. I know Jesus did it for the Gadarene demoniac.
Of course, he did not go into full stature, but He definitely affected his spiritual
condition. The Lord wants to give us a word to preach that is more excellent than
the word that Abel is preaching, and this must be Abel preaching I think. He
wants to give us a more excellent word, more powerful word. Brethren, the
average person could not sit in these meetings like you sit. There is going to have
to be a way to make them stand up. I want to hear it, make sure you remember
to tell me.
Hebrews 12:24 You are ascending to where the man, Jesus, ascended to, that's
full stature. So that the New Covenant in you, Christ Jesus in you, can cover your
animal blood. That's your sin nature so that you can preach stronger words than
Abel speaks. Why would Paul be talking about Abel? Because Cain would never
even understand what he's talking about. Besides he doesn't even acknowledge
that Cain preaches. Let me give it to you again. You are ascending to where the
man Jesus ascended to, that is full stature, so that the New Covenant which is
Christ Jesus in you can cover or atone for your animal blood that is your sin
nature so that you will be able to speak stronger words than Abel and help people
that are weaker. The stronger we are brethren the more we can help weak
people. Does that make any sense? The stronger we are the more we can help
weak people. The weaker we are the stronger the people studying under us have
to be because weak people will never stand. Does that make any sense to you? Is
everybody o.k? I was really hoping to finish this today.
Verse 25 See that you refuse not him that speaketh for if they escape not who
refused him that spake on earth, Jesus Christ, much more shall not we escape if
we turn away from Him that speaketh from heaven. See that you don't refuse or
reject him that is speaking today. Now where is the Lord speaking today?
Speaking through His prophets, Hebrews 1:1. I'm sorry, speaking through the
son. In the past God spoke through His prophets but today He speaks through the
son, not necessarily the son in full stature. Just the son. For if they escaped not
who refused him that spake on earth. I believe that is talking about Jesus Christ
before His ascension, much more shall not we escape if we turn away, and that
word turn way means to desert. If we desert Him that speaketh from heaven.
Look, Jesus Christ spoke in the days of the flesh. Today, it is still Jesus Christ
speaking from heaven See that you don't reject Him that is speaking today so it's
imperfect sons because those who refused Him in the days of His flesh they didn't
escape. The Nation of Israel was their commission. Much more shall not we
escape if we desert Him when He is speaking from heaven.
Verse 26 Who's voice shook the earth but now He has promised saying, yet once
more I shake not the earth only but the heaven. It's back on page 9 if you have
it. I only worked on the second half of this phrase. The word but. Yet once more
I shake not the earth only but the heaven. That word but is Strong's #235 and it
means restriction, and the word the is not present. He is shaking the heaven, and
this is my alternate translation of that second phrase of Heb. 12:26 A different
state of things now exist. What different state of things? Things are different
than when Esau messed up. It is a different state of affairs. Jesus Christ, our
sacrifice, has ascended to heaven, and He has returned to the earth and He is
present in our lives in a very powerful form. A different state of affairs exist now
than when Esau had his problem so I. The I is what is called an emphatic I. So
I shall break the singular serpent in pieces. Yet once more, now that the situation
is changed, I shake not the earth only. That negative particle not, we are
translating it the serpent, and what the Lord is saying is I am shaking the serpent
and I am restricting Leviathan. What I am suggesting to you is that the earth is
the serpent and that heaven is Leviathan. It's the lower heaven, the fallen mind.
In the past when Jehovah was dealing with Israel (end of tape 2).
HEBREWS 12 EXHORTATION
#383 Tape 3
If you were a sinner in the Nation of Israel you were stoned to death. Shaking the
earth. When you were stoned to death your earth was shaken, but now He is
shaking the heaven also. He is shaking your mind too. A different state of things
now exist so I, the Lord Jesus, shall break the singular serpent in pieces. I
believe it is that word only, that can be translated singular. What that means is
the reason He is breaking the serpent in pieces is that the serpent is the earth fully
saturated in Cain's waters. The breaking of the earth into pieces means the
separation of the earth from Cain's waters. That's what it means. He's breaking
the singular serpent. Cain is completely one under the authority of the serpent.
He is bringing a separation. The Lord Jesus is breaking the singular serpent
apart, and He is separating Cain from the earth, and He is restricting Leviathan.
It should be the other way around. First, the Lord Jesus restricts Leviathan.
What do you mean restricts him? Put a bridle on him. We have got to get a
bridle on that dragon, and it's not a him, it's a her. And once we get a bridle on
that dragon we put her down under our feet, and once we get authority over her
we stand up in full stature. The next step is to break up the serpent and free Cain
so that we can go on to glorification and be completely emancipated from this
body.
Verse 27 And this word yet once more signifies the removing of those things that
are shaken as of things that are made that those things which cannot be shaken
may remain. Just let me see my notes, we are almost done. The English word,
word, is in italics. It is not in the Greek, and all that I have told you about, once
more I am telling you it signifies the removing and the Greek word translated,
removing, is the changing of those things that can be shaken, and the word shaken
means to be overthrown. Paul is telling us this carnal mind of ours called
Leviathan it has got to be overthrown. Why? He who endureth to the end shall
be saved. The true translation of that phrase is, he who sows overthrown shall be
saved. That which can be shaken is our lame carnal mind. It has got to be
shaken. He'll shake our mind and he'll shake our body so that those things which
can be overthrown will be overthrown, and the things which can be overthrown
are the things which are formed. Spirit endures forever. Brethren, this whole
world is coming under a chastening. It is going to literally break us apart. The
only thing that cannot be shaken is our spirit, and if our Spirit is joined to the
Lord Jesus Christ we will survive. If our spirit is not joined to the Lord Jesus
Christ our house will be destroyed, this body, this mind but nevertheless our spirit
will be gathered unto the fathers. And the reasons that the things can be
overthrown are being overthrown is that those things which cannot be overthrown
may remain. Yet once more signifies the changing of those things which can be
overthrown, such as the things that are formed, that those things cannot be
shaken, which cannot be overthrown. this translation is poor. It should be that
those things which can be shaken may perish. the word remain means perish so
the last phrase which says that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
That is not a correct translation. It should be that those things which can be
shaken may perish, not remain but perish. Yet once more signifies the removing
or the changing of those things which can be overthrown such as the things that
are formed so that those things which can't be overthrown may perish. You are
going to perish. This carnal mind is going to perish. This body is going to perish.
The carnal mind is Leviathan. These bodies that we are in this is what the devil
is. They are going to perish, they are not going to remain.
Verse 28 Wherefore brethren we receiving a Kingdom which cannot be moved
let us have grace whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and
Godly fear. Wherefore brethren because we are receiving the Kingdom which
cannot be overthrown, a kingdom is a mind. We are receiving a mind that cannot
be overthrown. Once it is established don't be deceived. All that plant that our
Heavenly Father has planted in us is maturing. It can be overthrown, but we are
receiving a kingdom that cannot be overthrown when it is fully established.
Therefore let us have grace whereby we may serve God in an acceptable way with
reverence. And that word reverence means reasonable shunning. Reasonable
shunning. What does that mean? We talked about it earlier off the tape.
Brethren walk circumspectly and don't fellowship with evil doers because you will
not influence them to righteousness, but they will bring you down. Shun evil in
yourself and in others. Don't shun people because you are prejudiced. Don't shun
people our of fear. Don't shun people out of hatred, but shun unrighteousness and
so a shunning that is reasonable to protect yourself. Don't obey the spirit that is
in the world today that says that everybody is equal, and you can fellowship with
who ever you want with impunity. You will not fellowship with who ever you want
with impunity. You will partake of the evil that is in their heart, and you will be
damaged. Shun people whose lives will damage you without malice. Without
malice but for a Godly preservation. Wherefore since we are receiving this new
mind which cannot be overthrown let us have the grace to serve God in an
acceptable way to Him with Godly fear, with the fear of God, and by shunning the
people who will stop us from ascending, and I am adding in, without malice. We
must protect ourselves brethren.
Verse 29 For our God is a consuming fire. I am not really sure why Paul says
that at this point, for our God is a consuming fire. I did not put the amount of
time that I would have liked to put into this study. Lord would you give me a
comment for these people before we shut off the tape. Why would Paul say that
you are a consuming fire at this point? Let us serve you with a Godly fear, let us
shun those who would damage us. Well I guess what it means is that the Lord
Jesus is coming to burn up this earth, and we might as well follow Him now, those
of us who have ears to hear lest we come in another way, either through Satan's
judgments or don't come in at all. Any questions or comments here?
Discussion: When we were in the other house there was a prophesy that you were
going to receive revelations about things that you could not even imagine, and it
was another part of, eye hasn't seen and ear hasn't heard the things that God has
for those who love Him. Sheila: It came from you? Answer: Yes Sheila: Was
it about a year ago? Answer: Longer than that. When I was looking at that
scripture about Abel, before we got to it I was sitting looking at that and I
thought, speak of the better things than that of Abel, I said look at that and what
we know about Abel, I said better than Abel, then it must be Adam raised from
the dead. Sheila: Amen.
This is in response to a questions that was asked off the tape. This is my opinion
with regard to a lot of the disasters that are happening in this country both
physical disasters, floods, earth quakes and also plane wrecks and specifically we
are talking about a plane wreck that recently happened, and I everything that
happens in this world originates in the spirit world, everything. Good things, bad
things, everything originates in the spirit world. This world that we live in is a
play for the acting out of the ideas of spirit. Now we see a tremendous conflict
going on these days. I say down here the sons of Belial, that's everybody with a
carnal mind who's giving free reign to their carnal mind. They are thinking evil
thoughts continually and they go out into the world as negative energy. Energy
has power. Brethren the bottom line is energy. Everything is energy. Thoughts
of the carnal mind just go out into the spirit world, they go into the atmosphere
as energy, and those of the Sons of God who are the two witness company, the two
witness company are the sons of God who are not yet perfected, but they are
living for Christ, they are praying, they are casting down their ungodly thoughts,
taking authority over that negative side of them and whatever happens in this
world is that opposites attract. Opposites attract in this world. So the Sons of
God who are becoming more and more positive are almost sitting targets for all
these negative thoughts going out. The negative thoughts are zooming into the
Sons of God. The more holy your lifestyle, the more righteous your life style, this
negative energy is seeking you out. It is true that people who you know who have
ungodly thoughts toward you probably have a lot more power to hurt you with
their minds, but it doesn't even have to be people that you know. The negative
energy is attracted to you as if you were magnetized, but if you are living for
Christ you are casting those curses back, you are casting that negative energy
back. You are pushing it back, you are throwing it back, you are saying get out
of my life, and there is a conflict with all the negative energy going forth and all
the negative energy being thrown back it is shaking up the heavens, it is tearing
up the spiritual world, and everything is shaking and rocking and rolling, and
every once in a while there is a big tragedy, a terrible tragedy. The 747 crashed
right here in Long Island, no survivors. They don't know what caused the crash.
the plane exploded in mid air. They don't know whether it was a bomb, they don't
know if the plane caught on fire, they don't know what happened to it. It could
have been a spiritual attack. This world is shaking and rocking and rolling.
There is conflict in the heavenlies. When the Sons of God didn't exist it was just
all negative energy flowing around, but these people that are ascending into the
Kingdom of God they are sitting ducks but they are throwing it back. Now I used
to think, well let me put it to you this way. I have had a revelation for a long time
that I could go through several horrendous days of emotional torment that I
perceive as a spiritual attack, and after two or three, sometimes more, days of it
there is some big tragedy. I read in the newspaper, I hear on the news, some big
tragedy happens. It is like this. This negativity, it just riles up and riles up and
it doesn't stop until it reaches a climax, and the climax is destruction. I have
known this for several years. I've noticed it, and I was under the impression that
somehow Satan was a rocking and a rolling in the heavenlies and I was just feeling
it, I was feeling it, that there was conflict in the heavenlies and I was feeling it, but
recently just before this 747 crashed I had had several tormenting days and it
broke just as this plane crashed, and at this point the thought came to me, and this
is where I am at this time that it is not an issue of Satan or Leviathan cutting up
the heavenlies and me being touched by it, but I am one of the people in the world
that this negative energy is coming toward like I am a magnet trying to destroy
me. It is a spiritual law. These things are just attracted to me, and I am throwing
them back and throwing them back and who ever else is throwing them back, who
ever else is aware of this and throwing them back, that we Sons of God, members
of the two witness company who are throwing them back are, we are throwing
them back and the result of throwing them back is a cataclysm in the visible
world, a tragedy in the visible world, a climax of destruction in the visible world.
We haven't done it, we have just thrown back what is coming to us, and there is
a climax of destruction in the world, and this is the thought where I am now, and
we are just pelted with negative energy, and when we thrown it back it manifests
in the visible world. But to bring down a 747 I want to make this very clear. To
bring down a 747, for something this powerful to happen, in my opinion, this
could not be just me. There have to be faithful people all over the world that are
throwing back negative energy. It is the conflict of the ages manifesting in
destruction in the world. Someone said to me, well Sheila God doesn't do things
like that. No, God doesn't do things like that. Jesus didn't do this. the minds of
the sons of Belial did this. The carnal minds of men, all the negativity and evil
thoughts in the mind of men have done this. The Sons of God have refused to be
hurt by it and have cast it off. Their own sins are correcting them. Well, Sheila,
what about babies on the plane, what about innocent people? There are no
innocent people. We are down here in hell, everybody is guilty. The best we
could hope for is that the Lord would intervene on our behalf, and I want to tell
you very clearly, in my opinion, He is not intervening on anybody's behalf unless
they are really working to build His Kingdom, and I am not talking about giving
out tracts. Christians are sick and dying everyday, but if the Lord would
intervene the same person suggested to me He would stop the plane crash from
happening. No, I do not believe that for a second. Should the Lord decide to
intervene, He would intervene in the life of the individual by preventing them
from boarding the plane. I do not believe the Lord Jesus would stop a crash.
Why wouldn't He stop a crash? Because if He stops that one there will be another
one. This is hell brethren, this is Satan's world, and Jesus intends to bring it
down. He's going to bring confusion on it, hopefully people will repent. Now get
this straight, Jesus is not doing this. Satan is doing this, but Jesus is not stopping
it, but He is protecting individuals that throw themselves upon Him for His
mercy. He will get you out, or keep you off the plane, or you will be the sole
survivor, but He won't stop the tragedy. Don't be naive. He will not stop the
tragedy. I will tell you what I am telling everybody, we have got some dark days
coming in this country and in this world, and the smartest and best thing you can
do is persevere and put a driving movement into the Kingdom of God. Everybody
is out there marrying, and giving in marriage, going out and....and I will tell you
what I am telling everybody, we have got some dark days coming in this country
and in this world, and the smartest and best thing you could do is preserve and
put a driving movement into the Kingdom of God, everybody is out there
marrying and giving in marriage and going out and having parties and having fun
and going on vacations and selling dove pins and doing everything that they are
doing. We have to be building power in ourselves through a deeper and deeper
union with the Lord Jesus Christ so that we can protect ourselves and our
families. If you are concerned about your family get some power with Jesus
because we are out of time, we are out of time. Let me tell you, we are out of time.
I have no idea how many people in full stature it would take to protect the faithful
that have no power because Revelation 12 tells us there will a company of faithful
that have no power. They will come under the protection of the Sons. Can one
Son do it? Will it take 20 Sons? 100 Sons? I have no idea, I have absolutely no
idea. Well, Jesus was God. Yes, someone in full stature is God, but He said His
Father was greater than He. God in the flesh is limited. That sounds strange too.
I am sorry, He was limited by the prison house that He was in, and there is a
second stage of resurrection where He has more power than full stature. It is
called the spiritual circumcision. Exactly what he could do with regard to these
kinds of world events, exactly what one man could do with regard to these world
events I don't know. I believe He couldn't be killed. He disappeared from the
midst of those who hated Him. I believe He could do that. In full stature we can
appear and disappear, but to what degree we can affect the workings of this world
I don't think Jesus is affecting the workings of this world. He is getting
individuals out, and then the whole world is going to shut down. He is not saving
this world. He is saving individuals, and this world is going to burn up and be
replaced with the Kingdom of God on the earth. Anybody else? It has been a full
day. It's a late night. Let me just pray. Father, I pray that you bless us and that
you make it clear to us why you gave us this message at this time. We pray that
you prepare us for any and all judgement that is coming our way that we should
endure it as good soldiers, and I just pray that you don't leave us unprepared
because Lord you gave us this message, but I really don't understand what it
means. I have no idea what to expect so we just thank you Lord for telling us
because you said you don't do anything without telling your prophets, but it came
in code because I don't know what it all means, but we thank you Lord and we
thank you for the privilege of hearing you teach us your word and giving us the
truth of the scriptures. I just pray that you will bless our lives, that you heal all
infirmaries, and that you provide all of our needs and that you bless us and teach
us to submit to one another and help us Father. Bless the music ministry that is
rising up here Lord and bless the work of our hands and help us to serve you
faithfully Lord. In the Name of Jesus. Amen. (End of Tape 3 and End of
Message)