Sheila R. Vitale, Pastor, Teacher & Founder
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Just wanted to tell you how wonderfully blessed I am by all of your messages. The Lord led me to choose messages that would give me more of a foundation in your ministry. I have just listened to A Time for Resurrection, and The Harvest (again), and now Questions and Answers in Festac, Nigeria. It's so amazing to know that the Nigerian people have the same questions that I do! You speak all about the carnal mind and witchcraft, how people can use witchcraft on another by forcing them to do something contrary to their own will, even if it's a subtle suggestion. I am so happy to be finding out these "secret sins" that I never would have guessed were coming from me. I do these things all the time to my children, and probably to friends and my husband too. I recognize them now and confessed them to the Lord. It's such a relief to purge these sins that have burdened me for so long, sins that I never would have been aware of had I not listened to your tapes. All I can say is thank you so much for showing me the sins of my carnal mind, and I pray that each tape I listen to will reveal more and more and more until righteousness begins to reign in me.

Also, I have had revealed in me greed and materialism, which is another thing I don't think I would have guessed was at extreme proportions. As background, I came from a rather poor family, we had 4 children in the family and my parents never had enough money to buy us any luxuries, just the absolute bare essentials. When I got married and had my first child, I also didn't have much, but was content. When I got divorced 4 years later and another child later, I was almost destitute, living from paycheck to paycheck, fearing I'd be evicted from my apartment, have my car break down, etc. There was always fear, yet I never yearned or desired for bigger or better things. Now that I am married again, I have more or less taken advantage of that new found financial freedom, thinking nothing of spending the money on what I wanted to (not extravagantly, but spending freely). Anyway, much to my horror, I realize that I am overspending! I looked at the amount I have spent on books and things for myself, and I felt sick to my stomach. I have to confess this to my husband and also to God. I now know that I have fallen into a trap of the enemy and must now learn to stop being so compulsive. I have squandered away a lot of our savings on useless items, many times buying out of compulsiveness, not even using the things I had bought. I have rationalized the purchases to myself many times saying that I deserved it (what PRIDE)... Now I see just how black my sin really is. I don't think I could have had this revelation without your help, your dedication and commitment to helping people discover the sin in themselves. I appreciate you so much, because now I know that I can be an overcomer. I am really appalled at myself. 

Pastor Vitale's response:

It is a good thing that you are so willing to confess your sins, but beware of self-condemnation. To that end, I share my own testimony with you:

In the early years of my life, before I came to the Lord, I pretty much had everything that I wanted, but my desires were carefully limited due to a very rigid financial upbringing. In those days, I had no problem restricting my desire for things that I thought I didn't need, but I always had what was most important to me, clothes, for example. I had no compassion whatsoever on "poor" people, who came into money and spend it on cars and other extravagances, instead of investing it. The key to what I'm trying to tell you, is that even though there were not many extravagances in my life, I still had everything that I wanted, and had never experienced "deprivation" or the emotional pain that deprivation causes.

I may have told you that I went through a period of poverty, when the Lord first called me to preach, and during this period of poverty, I experienced "want" for the first time. It was very painful, although I openly admit that it could have been much worse. I was never without food, shelter, or transportation. However, I did not have everything that I desired, not only financially, but emotionally and spiritually. This was a time of great loss of the things of this world for me. the Scripture calls it fasting.

Well, much to my surprise, when the Lord restored me in this area, and some extra personal funds were available to me, I found that a large measure of myself control in financial matters had gone up in smoke. I struggle with this, even to this day.

I now understand that what appears to be wisdom and self-control in many wealthy and middle-class people, is really a form of legalism which is empowered by their carnal mind, and that any "strength" that we have through our carnal mind, will be revealed as "weakness" when tested in Jesus' purifying fire.

So this strength that I had that enabled me to resist any expenditure that I thought I should resist, which was based upon a law that my parents instilled in me, was proven to be a lie, because any strength that exists only to its breaking point, is not a strength at all, but a borrowed ability to accomplish one's goals for a designated period of time.

So, I have found out that the exposure of the lie -- that I can be strong by the strength of the carnal mind -- is the first step towards building the only true strength available to mortal man, the strength that arises out of a righteous mind.

So I now see that the financial strength of my early years was coupled with a condemnation of those who did not have this strength, and a miserliness towards the needy, which I now recall the shame. But I also see that financial self-control and responsibility is now available to me through the strength of Christ Jesus, my new, inner man, along with compassion and understanding for those whose self-control is weak because of previous deprivation, and a willingness to give to every legitimate cause, as righteousness requires it.

So, by all means, continue to look at your sins, but look at them through the eyes of Christ Jesus, because looking at your sins with your carnal mind is just as much the sin of pride as spending money irresponsibly. Looking at sin through the eyes of Christ Jesus builds up the life of your New Man, and reforms your personality in the righteous image of Jesus Christ, who cannot sin, but the eyes of the carnal mind produce only more legalism, condemnation and death.

XXX continues:

You talk about the anointing being so thick in the meetings that your eyes close and you can feel the presence of the Lord. What does that feel like and when does the Lord reveal Himself to you this way? Many times I have asked the Lord for a confirmation of His presence and I have not gotten a response. Is it a warmth, or the feeling like a blanket is enfolding you, or is it more a feeling of peace, of calm or tiredness? Just curious. I don't think I have any envy about it, but I do wish to know why some people can actually feel the anointing and some can't.

Pastor Vitale's response:

You ask about the anointing that I talk about. It is produced through the union of Christ Jesus in me and the glorified Jesus Christ who is above. It is the Spirit of Christ, as opposed to the Holy Spirit. It is warmth, peace, calm and tiredness, as opposed to the excitement of the Holy Spirit. This is because the Holy Spirit ministers to the Old Man, who experiences EMOTIONAL joy, but the Spirit of Christ ministers to the New Man, who experiences the joy of EMOTIONAL STABILITY.

This is a great mystery. Many who are experiencing the emotional joy that the Holy Spirit gives -- which is a good thing -- misjudge those who have the emotional stability which is in Christ Jesus, as being unwilling to "praise the Lord." But this is an error, because the true "praise" is a mind that is in the image of Jesus Christ. And, although emotional experiences are acceptable to God for the season that the Church is still carnal, Christ Jesus does not engage in activities that stir up emotionalism. But, on the other hand, to deny oneself the emotional experiences which are available to the Church through the Holy spirit because of legalism, or a religious spirit, is the sin of pride, and is not profitable for spiritual growth.

God bless you.

Love, Pastor Sheila