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We had some technical difficulties with this message, and we have lost the first 45 minutes of it, we pick up now in the midst of the service. We will go on, let me finish my thought okay. The Spirit of God hovered over Mary, in the same way that the Spirit of God hovered over the waters, and when the Spirit of God hovered over Mary, as we said the other night, He troubled the water of her human spirit, and a healing took place, hallelujah. Did you have a questions Xxxx?
COMMENT: Yeah, I was just thinking I was reading this, I always wondered that too when I read in there about the waters and where did the waters come from, and you saying that, I mean this is like the biggest thing we are to get out of this right here about the waters, but the waters was when the son separated from the Father, that is where the waters came from. That is really neat, that is really neat, just that alone, I have to think about that for a while.
PASTOR VITALE: Xxxx has a question.
COMMENT: So you mean the natural waters?
PASTOR VITALE: Well no, it is not talking about natural waters. Remember what I said at the beginning? This creation is going to be stated three times, and what is happening here in the first nineteen verses, happened in the realm of the spirit, and if you want a witness for that, I refer you to verse 4 of chapter 2, which says,
2. These are the generations of the heavens, and the earth when they were created in the day that the Lord God, made the earth and the heavens.
3. And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: For the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. KJV
This is all in the realm of the spirit, it is the creation of the soul realm. Then starting with verse 20, we see it starting to appear.
COMMENT: In the realm of the natural like we see today?
PASTOR VITALE: It does not come in the realm of the natural until chapter 2.
COMMENT: Oh, I see.
PASTOR VITALE: It starts in the spirit, let me put it on the board for you. Spirit is within, and we are not talking about up and down like how tall you are, but spiritual things are within and the realm of the soul surrounds the spirit, and natural things surround the soul, spirit is within. As God creates, He works His way out. At the beginning He is starting at the center, just like when a woman conceives a child, the first organ to be formed is the heart, and then the baby is built around the hearth, can you understand that?
PASTOR VITALE: Okay, so we will see if we ever get to it, as we go on that there were three rings to the atom of the creation. I will just put it on the board for you now, I am jumping ahead of myself, but we see the center, it is called the seas, which is the nucleus of the creation, and then we have the firmament, which is the soul realm, and then we have the dry earth. That which is dry in the realm of the spirit is Satan, and by the time the creation appears in the realm of appearance, the dry earth we find is a manifestation. The dry earth is that part of the creation which has nothing of Christ in it at all, it is an expression of Satan.
COMMENT: And that is the part that is seen? That is what appears?
PASTOR VITALE: Yeah, it is visible, the visible creation is called dry earth. We found out when we did Daniel 8 that the visible creation when Elohim was controlling the whole atom of creation, was visible, but it was spiritual, and when Satan stole the creation, the creation remained visible but became physical, and he added another orbit, and out here, does anybody know what this is called out here? Yeah, you are both right, the land of Nod, and outer darkness, yes, and it is hard, yes.
The visible creation which was spiritual, the example that I have of it right now is Jesus after the resurrection, He was quite visible, but He was not rigid, we now have a physical creation, where our bodies are rigid, and the earth that we walk on is rigid. The question is what did Eden look like, if the man was visible but not rigid, and the world that he lived in was visible but not rigid, what did it look like? I do not know what it looked like. I have no idea what it looked like. Let us try and go on here.
We are still on verse 2, and darkness, the darkness of the fallout was upon the surface of the pit, it was around the edge of the waters, and the Spirit of God, the Father moved upon the surface of the waters.
The Spirit of the Father did not interact with the fallout, He interacted with the water, the Spirit of God interacted with the soul, He did not interact with the darkness. Is everybody okay. Our New Testament Scripture says, I am the God of the living, I am not the God of the dead, I am the God of the spirits of all men, I am not the God of the souls. Who is the god of the souls of all men? Satan, he is the prince of the power of the air, he is the king of darkness. The Father is the God of the spirits of men, and when He comes to you, He is looking to interact with your spirit.
If you need a healing in your body, that does not mean He will not heal your body, but His ultimate goal is in a union with your spirit, God is not joining with your body, and He will join with your soul eventually when your soul marries Him, but that joining will be in the swallowing up of your soul, and every ungodly aspect of your soul will die so that you can now live out of the life of your new husband, but He is not interacting with your soul, He is swallowing it up.
He is interacting with your spirit, interaction implying offspring, He is bringing forth Christ, He is joining with your spirit, and He is forming Christ in it. When Christ arises, He is going to swallow up your soul, for all intents and purposes, He is going to kill your soul. The soul that sins, it will die, every soul has sinned, it will be swallowed up in Christ. Verse 3;
3. And God said, Let there be light, and there was light. KJV
Our definition for light is that which was formed when Jehovah interacted with the soul realm and I do not have typed on your notes that, that which was formed was when Jehovah interacted with the soul realm, what was formed, Christ was formed. When Jehovah interacted, now if I am confusing you let me say this, the soul, the waters of the soul at this point were not polluted, they were not polluted. Did I just confuse you?
We are in a fallen condition right now, when God comes looking for us, we have a human spirit which is separate and distinct from our soul, and He goes to that human spirit, but at the beginning of the creation, all that there was, was the water of the soul, and when Jehovah interacted with it at the beginning of time, He brought forth spirit. Do you remember Jesus said, I am the son of God, and I am the son of man. Jesus the offspring whose Father was God, Spirit, and whose mother was the living soul, that part of the living soul which God interacted with was Spirit. At the beginning of time all there was, was soul. We are told the Spirit of God hovered over the waters and He brought or He reproduced spirit in the soul realm, He brought forth light who is Christ, and when we did John 1, we found out that the light is Christ, so we see a witness to the same thing.
And God said, and Elohim said, Let there be light. The Spirit of God hovered over the waters, which was... AT
For all intents and purposes the water could be likened to a male seed, a male seed, and the Father quickened him and as soon as the Father hovered over him, we see that water crying out, Let there be light. What does that mean? It means that a reproduction took place, that the life of the Father, the spiritual life of the Father appeared on the surface of the soul. I just got a flash in my mind, do yo know what just flashed through my mind, when scientists do experiments, they do use something called a petri dish, they are little shallow dishes and they put water in them, or whatever they are going to put in them, and they see if things will grow.
They do experiments and they see what will grow in the petri dishes, that is what I just got a flash of. There was this water and it was just hanging and the Spirit of God interacted with it and something grew, something grew, Christ appeared. Remember the creation at this point, it is nothing like what it looks now, it could be likened to a, not even a fetus, what do you call a baby when it is first conceived, an embryo, yeah, it was embryotic, the creation was embryotic. If you cannot see that, do not worry about it, this is very difficult.
We do have natural examples, the creation was embryotic. I would not call it embryotic now, but we are fallen, so that is another whole subject and I am not going to get into that right now.
I did have an answer for your question from Sunday night though now that I remember it. I had said that the creation is fallen, and therefore the water in the soul realm or the water in the black hole is muddy, and the way God is separating the mud from the water is by boiling the water. You had said to me, Well I thought when Jesus boiled the water, that was to separate Satan from Eve, remember that? Yeah, so I have an answer for you, that the mud in the water is the carnal mind. The mud is being separated from the water and then the water is being separated from Eve, two separations.
Let us try and go on. We are in verse 3;
And Elohim said, Let me be born, and where there was just water, there was now light. AT
I call it enlightened water, the water became illuminated after the interaction with the Father. So on some of these charts I say enlightened water, and on some of them I say Christ, but Christ is the water that has been touched by the Spirit of God and invigorating. Life has come forth. There was life in the water but it was an embryotic form of life, likened to a female seed. When the son separated from the Father, separation from God makes you, well when the son separated from the Father, it put him in a position of being spiritually female. When the Spirit of God hovered over him, and interacted with him, a conception took place, and that conception is called light.
4. And God saw the light and, and Elohim saw the light, that it was good and Elohim divided the light from the darkness. AT
That Hebrew word translated divided, it means distinguish, I want to suggest to you that Elohim recognized that he was spirit and that the darkness was not spirit. By reverse inference, if Elohim after the light was formed, recognized that he was an offspring of God and that the darkness was not, before the light was formed, I suggest to you Elohim could not tell that he was different from the darkness. Is anybody not following me, everybody okay? I am going to say it again, after the Spirit of God interacted with the water, and Christ appeared, Christ recognized that He was different from the darkness and if the Scripture takes the time to say that, there is a reverse inference. Before Christ appeared in the water, that water which was female seed of the Father, could not tell that it was different from the darkness.
I want to remind you that those of us who are down here in hell, cannot tell that we are different from the darkness. The whole world thinks that they are the darkness, and large numbers of Christians, even those in whom Christ is begun to be formed, cannot tell the difference between that in them which is Chris, which is their true self, and the darkness that is covering Christ. Probably 999 out of 1,000 Christians cannot tell the difference between a thought of Christ and a thought of their carnal mind, they cannot tell the difference.
What am I saying? I am saying the creation in this hour is in one of two conditions unless there is some exception that I do not know about, and everybody is in transition between the two, either they are in such darkness, that they are not even aware that there is water within them, water typifying their dead human spirit, they do not even know it, they think all that there is, is the darkness of their carnal mind, or if they have been quickened by Christ, they have not yet said, Let there be light in my mind, or they are somewhere in between, complete darkness and in the process of saying, Let the light of Christ appear in my mind, and let me see that it is good, let me recognize the darkness of my carnal mind.
Do you know that there are people out there in the world that prefer their carnal mind? The Scripture clearly tells us that there are those who love their evil deeds, they love them. Let us say, each of us, let us say, Let their be light, and let us see that, that light is good, that it is preferable to the darkness.
5. And God called the light day, and darkness He called night...
I had a bit of a problem with this, because if you look in verse 18, it says;
18. And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness...
Apparently the day and the night is different from the light and the darkness, how could verse 5 say;
5. And God called the light day, and the darkness He called night...
There has to be something wrong with the translation, does anyone not know what I am talking about? In verse 18, God clearly distinguishes between the light and the darkness and the day and the night. He says the day and the night is going to do one thing and the light and the darkness is going to do something else. How could it is say in verse 5, that the light is the day and the darkness is the night, there must be something wrong with the translation? You know what I am saying, everybody okay?
In verse 18, it said, God is talking about two lights in the sky, and He says that the reason that He has put them in there, is to rule these two great lights, they are going to rule over the day and over the night, and they are going to divide the light from the darkness. We see that the day and the night cannot be the same as the light and the darkness because the two great lights are going to do one thing to the day and the night, and they are going to do something else to the light and the darkness.
There must be a problem with the translation. Those of us that have been studying these Scriptures for a while know that, that is not so unheard of, that there is a problem with the translation. Let us take a look at the Hebrew here and see what it is trying to say. And God called the light day, I want to suggest to you that the day is the whole righteous mind of the creation, and that is including the unconscious mind which is typified by the waters, and the conscious mind which is the light, I did not put that in there, but the conscious mind is the light also called Christ. Just as is the case in our generation, the Lord Jesus Christ has become the Father to us and we have become the son, at the beginning of the creation the Spirit of God hovered over the waters and Christ was born, and the waters became the Father to the son who is Christ.
Let me say it again, the Spirit of God hovered over the waters, He did something to the waters, the waters changed and brought forth an offspring, so the waters became the Father and the Christ became the son. When the Spirit of God touched the waters, He gave the waters the authority to be a Father, He gave the waters whatever they needed, to become a Father, and the Father brought forth a son. Just as in this hour, we are not dealing directly with Jehovah, we are dealing with the Lord Jesus Christ, He has become a Father to us, we are the second generation of Christ.
The waters have become the Father, the unconscious mind of the day, and the Christ or the light has become the son, the conscious mind of the day. I want to suggest to you that the day is the mind of Christ. The day is the mind of Christ, that is what I am saying, the day is the mind which is in Christ. The Hebrew word translated called, and God called the light day, the Hebrew word translated called, I mentioned this already can also be translated to choose. The verse should really be saying and the day is Elohim choosing the light, or Elohim together with the light is known as the day. Elohim together with the Christ, the Father together with the son, the unconscious mind of the Father, plus the conscious mind of the son, the mind of Christ, is known as the day.
The mind of Christ is known as day. In our definition of night, I have to change that, if you would cross that whole thing out please, that is wrong. Night is the dry part, the dry part of the creation, night is something that has nothing of God in it, and the dry part of the creation is Satan. The dry part of the creation is Satan. Let me put this on the board for you. I said that the day is equal to the waters, which we an also call Elohim or the Father, plus Christ or the son. It is the conscious and unconscious mind of the, which is ruled by God, the unconscious and the conscious mind which is ruled by God.
Then we have night, in the night we have the unconscious mind, which is from the dry part of the creation which is Satan, together with, the firmament, Satan being the part of the creation which is particles of fallout which is dry, and the firmament being particles of fallout which is wet. Think of the sea, think of the beach, think of the wave coming in, you have dry sand on the beach, as you go down to the water, you step on wet sand, and then if you keep on walking, you get into the water, can you see that. The ocean is spirit, the wet sand, the sand saturating with the water, is soul, and the dry sand all of the way up at the other end of the beach is Satan. Everybody okay? Okay.
Let me put this, I want to show it to you with circles. We have creation with spirit at the center, it be called spirit, it could be called seas, next comes the firmament, and we are going to find out soon, with all of the Scriptures that will show you that the firmament is made out of the particles of darkness which have been saturated by the spirit, and then surrounding that is the dry earth which are the particles of darkness which the water of God's life flowed upon but then was drained out of.
We see night, the firmament and the dry is called night, the firmament and the dry together is called night, and the spirit is, where the spirit is in the sea is called day. Here in the seas is water, and light. In our fallen world today, the water is dark, and if you go look on the ocean it is black, you cannot see down through it, but this was before the fall, and the water was clear, and the center of the creation is water and light, and that is called day. Night is the dry part of the creation that has nothing left of God's life, and the firmament which is the darkness saturated with God's life together. Night and day brethren are combinations, darkness is the fallout not combined with anything, night is the fallout in two different forms, either it is dry, one part of it is dry and the other part of it is saturated with the water of God's life. Light is Christ and day is Christ plus the water, day is the enlightened water, light alone is Christ.
...and the evening the morning were the first day. KJV
I think I mentioned this already, I will go over it, the evening is the time between sunset and deep twilight, it is the time that the sun is going down and that there is a mixture of light and darkness, and the Hebrew word translated evening is both male and female, remember the light is male, and the female is darkness. Even the Hebrew word evening indicates that the spiritual evening as well as the natural evening is speaking about a mixture of light and darkness. The word morning, the evening and the morning were the first day, the Hebrew word translated morning, is referring to the early rays of light, the light at its fullest power, what is that called? The light of day is high noon, when it is in its greatest strength, it is standing right above, and it is feeding down with the greatest heat that it can give off for that time of the year. The light that comes early in the day, that breaks the darkness, I suggest to you it is the imputed anointing, it is the beginnings of Christ, but as weak as it is, it has the power to expel the darkness, it has the power, it has authority over the darkness. Even though it is weak, and it is the first glimmers, it comes in and the darkness starts to go, it takes authority over the darkness.
The word day is referring to a time period, my personal opinion is that with regard to the creation, the word day is speaking about a time period. I do not believe that each time period is restricted to 1,000 years, I think it is referring to a time period, however long it took for God to do this work. The Hebrew word translated first means or can be translated, it can be first in rank, first in strength, first in age, but it can also be translated as one man or together.
The first day I suggest to you is the beginning time period of the creation when the darkness and the light were as one man, or we can say, the first stage of the creation, when soul and spirit, were functioning or living together as one man. God likens this as a marriage, He calls it a marriage. Our natural example of it is human marriage, Christ was male, and Satan and the soul realm were female, they were commanded to be in abject submission to the Christ, and the Lord said, If you live according to my rules, if you let Christ make all of the decisions, you will live, but if you separate, you Satan and the soul realm, if you separate from Christ, you shall surely die.
What was the name of the soul at the beginning of time? Adam, let us say Adam. He said to Adam the living soul, if you separate from the mind of Christ in you, if you separate from that imputed Christ, you are going to die. He said to the soul realm, if you separate, you have to live together as man and wife.
6. And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. KJV
That is very strange thing to say. Let me back up for a minute, I see that I did not tell you with regard to the last diagram. Let me point this out to you, verse 5, when it says, And God called the light day and the darkness He called night, we find the same situation that we find in verse 1, we have a statement without any explanation, and as we go on in Genesis 1, we will find these terms defined, we will find heaven defined, we will find dry defined, and we will find light and we will find day and night more clearly defined. When we go on to verse 6, at this moment let me just leave it with you that verse 5 has not yet been explained, I went ahead, but it has not yet been explained in the Scripture.
Just let me tell you this, that when you look at these drawings for verse 3, I did mark down that the darkness has a negative charge and that the waters which have now been enlightened have a positive charge, can you see that? You have two diagrams of this, one is a side view and the other is a top view, you see the deep filled with water, surrounded by the particles of fallout, and the particles of fallout have a negative charge, and the waters which have been enlightened have a positive charge.
Remember God is making an atom, of the creation, atoms have to have charges in our natural example, the nucleus of an atom has a positive and a neutral charge, there are protons and neutrons in the nucleus of an atom, protons are positive, neutrons are neutral. The darkness or the orbits around the atom are negative, and that is how we see God proceeding as He is building the creation.
What we are looking at now is the diagram that says verse 6 in the left hand corner and it says 5 in the right hand corner, that is what we are up to, verse 6;
6. And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters and the let is divide the waters from the waters. KJV
We see what happened, let me put this on the board for you and show it to you as it is happening. We see that we have the water in the abyss, and it was surrounded by the dust. There had to be a limit to the dust, there had to be a limit, the dust only went out so far. We see the water from the abyss flowing forth, flowing forth because of the will of Christ, God said, Elohim said, Let there be a firmament in the midst. What happened is that the waters flowed out and covered over the dust, forcing the dust into a condition of covering over the waters like an ark, almost like a rainbow you could say. If you look at that word in the Hebrew it is talking about pounding the dust into a form.
The dust was just water on both sides, water underneath it, and water on top of it, forcing the dust particles to spread out, the word firmament means to spread out, forcing the dust particles to spread out or cover over like a layer of light clay, the abyss, or the waters of the abyss.
That is what God did, He forced the darkness or the particles of darkness to take the form of the waters of Christ. He forced the particles of darkness to take the form of Christ or to be formed in the image of Christ. He engraved the darkness. That is how the firmament was formed. Let me give you a side view of it, that was heaven. What is heaven? Heaven brethren is having a spiritual being that is dominated by Christ. Heaven is having a mind which is Christ. I do not see how it could be any clearer, it is right here in the Scripture.
Just let me give you a top view of it, you can, I feel to draw it for you even though you have the diagrams. This is the top view, we are drawing it as circles, it is like you are in an airplane looking down on the ocean, and we have all of the dust particles are in here, although they are not individual dust particles anymore, because when you wet down dust particles, they mat together, so this is now called the firmament, the dust particles that have been forced to spread out over Christ and take the form of Christ because they are caught between two layers of water.
7. And God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament, (and He divided them by the firmament), and it was so.
8. And God called the firmament heaven. KJV
We have a problem with that translation here, what you have on page 3 under firmament, what I wrote down there is firmament of the heavens, and that is a mistake, and God called the firmament heaven, it does not say firmament of the heavens, but that translation is not good because it makes it sound like the firmament part alone is called heaven, that is what the translation makes it sound like. And God called the firmament heaven, it sounds like God is saying this is alone is the heaven, that cannot be, so let us find out what the problem is.
I know I wrote this down somewhere. Now remember this Hebrew word translated called, we talked about it in verse 5, it can be translated together with or to be joined together with, and I want to suggest to you that Elohim, where is Elohim, anybody remember where Elohim is? He is in here with Christ, Elohim typified by the water, and Christ typified by the light. We see verse 8 saying;
8. And Elohim together with the firmament is called heaven. AT
This is Elohim out here too right? God together with the firmament, the whole thing is called heaven, well the heavens, and what are the two heavens? The one heaven is Christ and Elohim, and the other heaven is the darkness which has been invigorated by the life of Christ. Everybody okay? It is very deep, just try and flow with it. The correct translation of verse 8 is that God, Elohim together with the firmament is called heaven. Brethren, when your mind looks like that... I have been under a confusion all day, sometimes there is just a confusion that goes out in the realm of the spirit, and God is going to do, there are a lot of people getting deliverance here tonight, God is doing a big thing today and there is a lot of hindrance in the spirit, so everybody just try and hang in there to the best of your ability. We are working in verse 8; And God together with the firmament, God together with the darkness that has been saturated with His life is called heaven.
I know what I was saying, brethren when your person, we are all evening and morning. The human race is the darkness and light of the soul realm and the spirit realm mixed together, that is what we are, the question is, who is going to dominate? Is the Spirit of God going to dominate or is Satan is going to dominate? We are light and darkness mixed together, we are the evening and the morning, we are the creation which is the evening and the morning, but you see they are no longer joined together or living together as one man, we are a separated creation, and that is how we died, we separated, we the soul, separated from the mind of the Spirit which was God, and we died. That was what happened to us.
To have a mind in this condition, to have a mind which is dominating the darkness that is within us, why is it there? Because God put it there.
To have a mind that is dominating that darkness is heaven. To have a mind where the darkness is dominating the light is not only hell but it is a perversion, it is a perversion. It was an abomination unto the Lord, and He will reverse it in this entire creation. Depending on what your mind is, your whole world is a reflection of what your mind is, your life is a reflection of what your mind is, your body is a reflection of what your mind is, and this whole physical world that we walk upon out there which is called hell or the land of Nod, is a reflection of the mind or the dark mind, the darkness of the mind which is ruling in the creation in this hour.
We find many Christians expecting God to, I do not know what they think He is going to do to Satan, but brethren Satan is a part of the creation, he has to remain in the creation, but he has a place in the creation, what is the name of the place where he belongs anybody? Under your feet, well okay, what is another way of saying under our feet, what is another way of saying under our feet, where is he going to be chained? In the bottomless pit, yes, he is going to be chained down there.
He is going to be under the feet of the Christ, if he is chained down in the bottomless pit, he is under the feet of the Christ, under the authority of the Christ, he is not, he is going to burn forever, but the burnings, yeah, but it is not a tormenting burning, it is a spiritual burning which will control his wickedness. The everlasting burnings indicates the authority of God controlling the darkness in the creation. That is what the everlasting burnings are. Maybe to Satan's mind it is a torment, but it will not be a torment to us, we are in torment right now. I pray for everlasting burnings, let them come into my life. Let them come into my life and let them burn Satan for the life of the ages, that I might have peace and reside in heaven.
Brethren, we have got this whole message backwards, why? Because our mind is fallen and a fallen mind which is a soulish mind sees it backwards. We have got the whole thing backwards. Let those everlasting burnings come, they are not hell they are heaven. The everlasting burnings are heaven, because Satan does not want to be controlled, Satan is about to lose his independence. Let me give you a natural example of this brethren, I have been preaching here for a long time that to be in bondage to the Lord is greater than the greatest you can attain to your independence and separation from Him, I have been saying that for the longest time, and it has help me overcome my human concerns or apprehensions about giving up my independence and becoming a bond servant of Christ, this revelation that God has given to me, I cannot give you any natural example, but I know that being a bond servant of the Lord, of having Him control every aspect of my life, is a greater lifestyle, a way greater lifestyle than the greatest lifestyle a human being can attain in this world.
Someone who is totally successful in this world, you are mentally well, you are physically well, you have the best marriage in the world, you are a genius, you have gotten six million degrees from college, your life's work is what you enjoy doing, it is producing great amounts of income, your happily married, your children love you, what more could anyone ask for in this world? What I am saying is, the very best you could attain in this world is nothing, nothing compared to the glory or the greatness or the peace or the contentment or the satisfaction, I guess that is the word that I want, the satisfaction that we will find in being a bond servant of Christ.
Our problem is, we cannot comprehend what being a bond servant of Christ is like. When we hear servant, we assume it is going to be a terrible thing. Let me give you a natural example, the reason Satan is in such torment at the thought of being forced down under the authority of Christ, is because he can be likened to a liberated woman. I want to tell you that I can relate to this, there was a time in my life that there was nothing more that I wanted than to iron my husband's underwear, I mean I was content ironing, do you believe it, it was all I wanted to do, I was happy, but God took me out of that life.
I did not want to go out of that life, I was so happy being a home maker, baking my bread and cooking and making my own spaghetti sauce, made my own macaroni, I was the happiest thing going, and God forced me out of that life and I want to tell you I was bitter when He forced me out of it. I remember the day that I gave away all my bread pans and my cookie cutters, I gave them, I said, Here take them, I have kept them for three years and I now accept the fact I cannot go back to that life, I have to work, I am raising a child, I just have no time to do anything like that, and I gave them away in great bitterness of spirit. I have become a whole new creature in Christ, I have become a liberated female, I did not ask for it, I did not want it, but here I am, and I want to tell you, I am a spiritual man, I do all of the things that men do, spiritually and mentally speaking, I do everything that man does. I have authority, I am in a position of leadership, I am a decision maker, I do everything that a man does, spiritually and emotionally.
I have no natural family because my life would be a perversion if I had a natural family, it would be two men married to each other. I want to tell you the thought of going back to being the kind of housewife that I loved being strikes great anxiety in my heart, severe anxiety at the thought of having to go back to that. I have become something completely different than I was, when I was that married woman. I do not want anyone to misunderstand me, I am not against marriage, God made me into something else, other than a married wife and now the thought of going back, the thought of being dependent on somebody causes me severe anxiety.
Twenty years ago the thought of being the breadwinner caused me severe anxiety, but I became a breadwinner. Now the thought of being the dependent one causes me severe anxiety. Does anyone not know what I am talking about? I want to tell you that Satan was, she was in a position of being very protected when the mind of Christ was controlling the creation, but she separated, she separated from the mind of Christ, and she has been a liberated woman for thousands of years, she is running this whole creation, she is the prince of the power of the air, she is manifesting her existence through the many members of humanity, doing whatever she wants, no one is telling her what to do, no authority over her, and for her the thought of going back down under, is terrible, it is terrible, because she became something that she was not.
For intents and purposes she became a man, and her fear and her terror can be likened to that of a man who is being forced to be a woman. That is a terrible thing to a man to be forced to be a woman. I do not think there is any man that would not tell you that, it is just something that is built into their emotions. The thought of being dominated by a woman or being forced into a female role, that is the height of fear is that not true? A lot of men, they have a fear since they are little boys, they have a fear of it. They have such a fear of it, some men, that they will stop a woman at the slightest sign of their trying to dominate them. She may not have even done anything wrong, but they will come against any sign whatsoever of aggression on the part of a woman, because the root of it, is terror, that their manhood would be stolen.
It goes back, that fear, that terror, it roots back to the fall when the mind of Christ who was male was castrated by Satan. It is a very real fear, the psychiatrists know about it, whether the man is admitting it or not admitting it, that fear of castration and fear of being overtaken and having their authority stripped from them is built in fear. That is why Satan is so opposed and terrified and alarmed at the thought of being put back down into her female role. Everybody okay? We will go on then if you are alright.
We see in verse 8 that God together with the firmament is called heaven, and the evening and the morning were the second day. The Hebrew word translated second means a second time or to do it again. We are saying that the time period when the souls and spiritual elements of the creation are still united, as one man, after the heavens were created, the spirit and the soul of the creation was still united, they were still united. Let me just show you on the board here. Heaven is the spirit and the firmament together. The spirit alone is day, just to give you some contrasts here, this is called the seas, well we are really not up to the seas yet. This is Elohim and Christ is in here, it is also spirit, and then we have the firmament, and then we have dry land, I guess we are not up to this yet.
This is day, the spirit is day, can you see my arrows? Let me do it in another color, this is night. The spirit alone is day, the dry plus the firmament is night, and the whole thing, not the whole thing, not the dry, and the spirit plus the firmament is heaven. Can you see that, the spirit through the firmament is heaven, the spirit alone is called day, and the dry and the firmament is called night. Can you see that?
Different combinations of the elements of the creation. All of these names are referring to different aspects or combinations of the aspects of the creation. Of course the dry is darkness, the dry is darkness which has been touched by Christ and then Christ has pulled out. The water of Christ has flowed over him, and then withdrawn, to such a degree that he is dry but he is no longer darkness alone, he is now called dry earth. Once God touches you, you cannot possibly be the same.
The spirit alone, the realm of the spirit alone which has both Elohim and Christ in it is day. Night is a combination of the firmament and the dry earth. Heaven is the realm of the spirit, that is Elohim and Christ together with the firmament, the spirit together with the firmament is heaven, and the dry earth is the darkness that has been influenced by Christ. It is no longer darkness because Chris touched it, it has now become a new creature even though it is still Satan. This is the invigoration of Satan. When the waters of the spirit flowed over the darkness, it gave life to Satan, and then even though the waters of the spirit pulled out, that intelligence in the darkness had come alive, that was how he came alive.
The darkness was touched by Christ and it became, the darkness became alive, that intelligence sprang forth out of the darkness. Everything God touches, it produces change in it. Once God touches you, it could no longer be darkness alone. We are now to verse 9;
9. And God said, Let the waters...
Let me see if we have the diagram of that, yeah, we have a diagram of that, it says verses 9 and 10, and in the right hand corner it says 7. Let me get the right diagram on here again for you. We have spirit, and then we see the firmament has been formed around it, and then we have spirit outside of it, so we have the waters under the firmament, and the waters over the firmament. Everybody okay? That took place in verses 6 and 7. We see in verses 6 and 7 the atom of the creation came into this form. We see three rings, water at the center or spirit at the center, earth layering around it, and water on top of it, and now in verse 9, we see God continuing to build the atom of the creation, and He says. And Elohim says;
5. And Elohim said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place...KJV
This is a bit of a mystery. Remember, the whole creation is called heaven. Heaven includes everything except the dry. The waters plus the firmament is heaven. God says, Let the waters under heaven, that is everything under here, that is everything under here, let it be gathered unto one place. I want to suggest to you, now this is the deep over here, this is a pit. If the waters are going to be gathered unto one place, what God is really saying is Let all of the water that came out of the pit, let it come back to the pit, just like the ocean, the tide comes in the tide goes out.
These waters and these waters all came into one place. Basically it was the waters from the outer ring flowed back into the pit. That is what God said, Come back. We see a creation that now looks like this. I will add it later, water in the center, the firmament around it, and over here where we had water before, there is no more water. It has become the dry earth.
Apparently, there was some darkness out there, see when the waters shot out, pass the darkness, this area which is called firmament was a heavy concentration of the darkness or the dust particles and became the firmament but out here in the realm, in the ring where there was water outside of the firmament, there was still some particles of darkness. Why? Because the whole creation is mixing together. Anybody having a problem seeing that? When the water came back, this ring out here was completely drained of water, and it is now the dry, the Hebrew word does not say dry land, it says that part which is dry, and that part which is dry is called the earth.
This ring that is close to the pit, that is close to the abyss that is filled with waters, just like that section of the ocean that is close to the ocean, it is always wet. If you go to the beach, even if you walk on dry sand, you should, everybody must know that if you are close enough to the ocean, all you have to do is take a shovel, and dig out a couple of shovels full and you hit if not water, at least wet sand right under the surface. The firmament is that wet sand you might say, or that wet dust.
We now have a creation with three rings, and the Scripture tells us in verse 10, that the water is now called, anybody know? The seas. Why does He change the name of the water? Why does the Lord change the name of the water? I want to suggest to you that when the water from the outer rings came back to the pit and brought back particles of darkness with it, and therefore the water that came back is not the water that went out. The evening and the morning were one day. The darkness and the light is interacting, so now the water in the pit, has been changed, the light is still having dominion over the darkness but there is some darkness in here totally under the dominion of Christ, but the name changes, there has been a change in the nature, and the name changes, it is a spiritual principle.
Every time you perform a procedure upon something, the name changes. You add something to it, you remove something from it, you expose it to light, you expose it to heat, the name changes, it becomes a new product. It is throughout the Scriptures everywhere. We now see that the water of the creation is called the seas, and it is predominantly water with light in it, and it a smattering of darkness, nothing really particularly significant, but some darkness. The whole creation is all mixed up. The firmament is light and darkness, the firmament is the darkness plus the water of the life of Christ.
The water of the life of Christ now has some darkness in it, so we see the seas in the firmament both light and darkness with the seas predominately light, and the firmament predominantly dark. Then there is another ring to the creation which is the dry land. This I suggest to you is Satan. This section here is heaven. This is Satan or hell. The prophet said, Behold I will do a new thing, a woman shall compass a man, the female realm, the darkness was outside of the light of Christ. God was not finished yet, it is not the end of the creation.
10. And God called the dry land earth, and the gathering together of the waters He called the seas. God saw that it was good. KJV
We have some definitions here on page 3 of our notes. The part of the creation which is completely without Christ but nevertheless invigorated by His life, which makes him Satan is called dry, it is symbolically called dry, and the word seas, is water which flowed back into the deep after saturating the darkness. The seas contain some residue of darkness, but the darkness cannot overtake the Christ. John 1 through 5 witnesses to that.
11. And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass and herb yielding seed and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth, and it was so. KJV
I am not going to spend too much time on this, but the word grass is Strong's #1877, and the lexicon says it means the first signs of life, I suggest to you it is the imputed anointing, and the herb yielding seed is Strong's #6212, and it means full grown and in seed, food for man, and I suggest to you that it is the immature or incomplete imparted anointing. It means that it is Christ growing, but He is not fully born yet. ...and the fruit yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, let it come forth upon the earth. The fruit tree whose seed is in itself is speaking about the fully born mind of Christ, the fully born imparted anointing. That expression that it has, it is seed within itself. It means it is talking about a mind that has within it an ability to send forth a seed, just like the Father did at the beginning of time, and fertilize another human being.
Do we not find Scriptures, I think it is in one of the epistles of John, if I am not mistaken, where we are told that we could be fathers, we are fathers. Brethren, when you have a mind of Christ that is mature enough to shoot forth some of its very own substance and touch the life of another human being, you are entering into the realm of fatherhood, and that is the tree yielding fruit with the seed within himself, you have to have seed within you, you cannot bring forth the life of Christ in another man if you do not have seed within you, why? Try and remember back to the beginning of this message tonight, because the waters in the pit were female, and it took the Spirit of the Father to interact with them to bring forth the life of Christ.
When the Spirit of the Father interacted with the waters, it did two things, it made the waters male and it brought forth the son, the life of Christ. Let me put it to you this way, when the Spirit of the Father interacted with the waters which were female, it brought forth the life of Christ, and one of the results of the appearance of the life of Christ was that the waters became male. What does that mean? Christ dominated any female aspect of that soul realm, the whole soul realm became male, and the mind in it was male, and the whole soul became male.
When you, if there exists in this earth and I believe that there are people in this earth today, I do not know how many, but Christ is developed in them to a point that they have seed within themselves. I do not know anybody that is fully born yet, but there are people in the church today in whom the mind of Christ is mature enough to shoot off pieces of itself and touch other people's lives and raise their human spirits from the dead. That is what the greater works is. Jesus said you shall do greater works than I did. What did He do? He raised the physical dead, He raised them to live out the rest of their lifetime so that they could die again. But we are raising the Christ in men from the dead so that they can have the life of the ages, and never die, that is the greater works.
12. And the earth brought forth grass and herb yielding seed after his kind and the tree yielding fruit whose seed was in itself after his kind, and God saw that it was good. KJV
I want to remind you that this is all in the realm of the spirit, this one is easy to check out. If you look at chapter 2 verse 5, it tells you that God did this, that God created every plant of the field before it was in the earth. How did God create them before they were in the earth? He created them by thinking about them. The created act is in the living thought of God. Verse 13 tells us;
13. And the evening and the morning were the third day. KJV
The creation that was both soul and spirit, darkness and light was in a condition that the Scripture calls the third day. What does that mean? I want to remind you that we have many tapes when we were studying the book of Revelation where the Lord revealed that the third part is referring to the Satanic realm, and we went through those deep studies in the book of Revelation, God imparted a mystery to us that the third part typifies the satanic realm.
I want to suggest to you that on the third day, Satan appeared, the dry land, the dry land which had been touched by the life of Christ and then drained of that life, left an intelligence in the darkness of the earth on the third day. If anybody listening to this tape, feels that I pulled that teaching out of the air that the third part is typifying the Satanic realm, here is some second witness if you can receive it, receive it. If you listen to all of those tapes where I taught that, that the third part meant the Satanic realm, I had no proof for you, I just knew that God told that to me, so here we see proof.
The third part of the creation, Satan was formed on the third day, first part spirit at the center, second part soul in the firmament and third part Satan in the dry earth. He is the third part of this creation, hallelujah. How are you all doing. Xxxx would have me go on all night, what time is it, it is 10:00 p.m. and that is the second tape that we are on? You want me to go on a little more, maybe I will do a little more, everybody okay? Boy we have a real trooper here.
14. And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven...
I will tell you what I am going to do, I am going to go through this very quickly, I am getting a little tired, I am going to go through this very quickly, and we will do it again at the next meeting, we will go in to more detail, I am just going to give you some pointers to think about and to meditate on and to pray about.
14. And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven, to divide the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and for years. KJV
This Hebrew word translated lights, it is a different Hebrew word than the Hebrew word translated light in verse 3. The Hebrew word translated light in verse 3 is referring to the actual light that is shining, this word is speaking about a channel that the light flows through, you might call it a light bulb, the Scripture in many places calls it a candlestick, it is the channel through which the light is expressed, and God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven, let there be channels for light in the firmament of the heaven. This is what they are going to do, they are going to divide the day from the night and they will be for signs and for seasons and for days and for years.
I call your attention to the expression the firmament of the heavens, and I suggest to you as I have already told you that the heavens is in two parts, the firmament and the seas. The heavens are the firmament and the seas. Let me just put this on the tape, that back in verse 8 where the King James translation says, And God called the firmament heaven, that translation should really be, And Elohim together with the firmament is called heaven. At this point Elohim is in the form of seas, the seas is made up of Elohim, Christ, and some particles of darkness down there in the seas. All of that together, the seed and the firmament, the darkness and the light which is dominated by Christ is called heaven.
The firmament of the heaven is the part which is predominately darkness. I remind you that the seas has some particles of darkness but it is predominantly light, and the firmament has some light but it is predominantly dark, nevertheless, the light is controlling the darkness.
The firmament of the heavens is that part of the heavens which is predominately darkness, it is the part which is visible, it is the part which is visible. The realm of the spirit is the invisible realm, and the firmament is the realm of the soul which begins to be visible. How are souls visible? Does anybody know how souls are visible? How do you see a soul? A soul is personality, you see a soul in the way a person talks and the way they relate to you and the way they act towards you. Let there be channels for the true light in the soul realm. Everybody okay? The firmament is the soul realm, and there function will be to divide or to distinguish the day from the night.
Let me remind you that the day is the whole realm of the spirit where the seas are now, and the night, I will show it to you again, the night is the firmament plus the dry, and the day is in the realm of the spirit. Okay? Okay, everybody okay? There are going to be lights channels for the true light in the soul realm of the heavens and their function is to distinguish the day from the night. I want to suggest to you, I cannot prove it to you, you have to pray about it, you are free to disagree with me if you like, but I want to suggest to you that this Scripture is talking about the formation of the individual atoms here in the dry and in the firmament, that each particle of dust at this point, God is infusing with a drop of the water of the seas and He is forming the individual atom which is going to look like that.
Every particle of darkness in the night, there is going to be channels for the true light is going to be appearing in the soul realm. That is what God told me, I believe that is what God told me, that is my revelation at this point, you do not have to believe if you do not want to, it is not very clear.
I suggest to you that this is speaking about, this phrase that the lights, the channels through the lights, their job is to divide the day from the night, that this is the formation of the darkness in the firmament into the shape of the atoms, which will eventually receive a nucleus of the life of Christ coming out of the seas. Let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and for years. This Hebrew word translated signs, it is speaking about anything which of itself cannot be seen, it is signal, it is something that signifies something which of itself cannot be seen, and the word seasons means points of time on the circle of the earth. I want to suggest to you that we are talking about the visible creation here. We are talking on the one hand about the visible, the atoms which formed the visible creation and then on the other hand the atom of the visible creation itself.
The word days is referring to a time period, and the Hebrew word translated years is speaking about a cycle, a complete circle, it is speaking about the change of seasons, spring, summer, winter, fall, referring to the entire visible creation, north, south, east, and west, it is referring to the entire visible creation, all sides of it. It is not very clear here, but I did make up an alternate translation for you.
14. Let there be channels in the soul realm to distinguish the day from the night and let them appear upon the earth. AT
The phrase is, and let the be for signs and seasons and for days and for years.
...let these channels appear in the visible earth, let each particle of the darkness of the soul realm be formed around a drop of the water of Christ's life and let them appear (not let the atoms appear, but let a visible creation appear). AT
Everybody okay? Verse 15;
15. And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth. KJV
15. And let them be for lights or channels for light in the firmament of the heaven, in the soul realm, and there function will be to give light upon the earth. AT
Let them appear in the soul ream, let there be visibility in the soul realm, meaning personality, visible in the soul is personality, and let that light be shed upon the earth, let it be reflected through the dry or through the visible realm, physical, well I do not want to call it physical, the creation was not physical at this point, but it was visible, it was visible in personality and it was visible that you could see it, but it was not physical. We see the two forms of appearance through personality and through interaction through the way, through personality.
When Jesus appeared after the resurrection, John recognized Him, he said, That is the Lord, but He did not look anything like Jesus of Nazareth at all. Some people even play games, they put a mask on somebody, and the person will disguise himself and come out, and they will see if lifelong friends can recognize them, by asking them questions and talking to them. That is the existence in the firmament, but let them be reflected in the dry, let them be reflected in the visible creation.
COMMENT: When you were speaking of channels, would that be the sons of God or the firstfruits, is that another meaning?
PASTOR VITALE: I thought so at the beginning, but at this point I do not believe so, I believe that the sons of God are appearing at the bottom of verse 16 where it says He made the stars also. That is where I am right now, but I had that thought at the beginning also. They were channels for the light of Christ, and we know that we are told in another place that Christ is revealed through the whole creation, we could see God in the trees, we can see God in the stars, God in the sky, we are told we have to know there is a God, when you just look at this visible world and the order that it is in, that all of the atoms put together have made this visible world and God is in the visible world, God is in everything.
16. And God made two great lights, the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night, and He made the stars also. KJV
I want to suggest to you that the two great lights are the soul or mind and the personality that, that mind is reflected through, and that Hebrew word translated rule, it can be, I do not know if I found it in the Hebrew, I may have gone into Webster's, but I think I went into Webster's, rule means law, and I want to suggest to you the Scripture is speaking about the law of life and the law of sin and death. Paul clearly states that there are two laws in the whole creation, the question is, which law is prevailing, which law is on top. Is the law of life controlling the law of sin and death, or is the law of sin and death trampling the law of life underneath its feet.
There are two laws in this creation, darkness and light, spirit and soul, and each element has a law that governs it. God made two great lights, spirit and soul, the greater light to rule over the day, remember the day is the realm of the spirit, and the lesser light to rule the night, and remember the night is both the firmament and the dry. We are talking about Satan and the soul realm, and He also made the stars. He also made the individual members of this living soul.
17. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth. KJV
That Hebrew word translated set, is Strong's #5414, and it means to deliver into one's custody. I want to suggest to you that both the spirit and the soul was set in the firmament of the heaven which is the soul realm, the spirit is the mind which is Christ, and it was put into the soul, they were both coming out of the firmament, they were both coming out of the soul realm. God set them in the firmament of the heavens and His purpose in doing that was that the light, both lights should be appearing on the dry earth which is the visible creation.
For the light which is in the spirit to get to the visible creation, it has to pass through the soul realm. The soul realm is the mediator, I think I am tired, the soul realm is in a mediator role, that is not the word I want to use, but I cannot seem to get it out of my mouth, and we know that there is only one mediator between God, which is the spirit, and man, and that is the spiritual man, there is only one mediator between God or Elohim in the spirit and fallen man which is dry earth, and that is the spiritual man which is in the firmament, Christ Jesus. The firmament is a medium, it is a medium between the dry earth and the spiritual realm.
17. And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth...KJV
They had a role as mediator.
17. ...to rule over or to be the law of the day, or to be the law of life, and over the night, or to be the law of the night, to be the spiritual law of sin and death which is in the darkness, and also to divide the light from the darkness, and God saw it was good. AT
This is the example I gave you at the beginning of the message, if there is an obvious different between day and night, and light and darkness, and let me give you some insight on that. Light and darkness, Christ is the light, He is the conscious mind alone, and the darkness is the fallout, day is the mind of Christ, both unconscious and conscious mind, and the night is the living soul including the unconscious mind of Satan. The night is the soul and the dry, Satan.
He set them there, He set these two great lights in the soul realm to rule over the realm of the spirit and the realm of the soul, which is personality, and to distinguish between Christ and Satan. Let me give you that again. And God set these two great lights, or these two great lights as two laws in the soul realm, was to rule over this realm of the spirit, and over the realm of the soul which included Satan, and to also distinguish between Christ and the darkness which is Satan alone.
God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, and to be the law over the day, which is the realm of the spirit, and over the night which is the soul realm and Satan, and to distinguish between Christ and the darkness which is Satan, to be a separation there in the soul realm, and God set the two laws in the soul realm to distinguish or to divide between Christ in the realm of the spirit, and Satan in the visible world. The firmament again, it is a separation between spirit and Satan, God, the Spirit of God will not contact Satan directly.
That is the problem we have today, we cannot come directly to the Father God because we are Satan in this hour, and we will be destroyed, there has to be a buffer between us and that buffer is Christ Jesus. Did I make that clear or should I go over it again? And the evening and the morning was the fourth day, and the creation was still both light and darkness on this fourth day, and the number 4 is the number of generation. I suggest to you that on the fourth day the sons of God, the second generation of Christ were formed in the realm of the spirit. My greatest fan. Praise God. Here comes some good questions.
Oh, okay, I thought you had some questions for me. We are going to see if we ever get to it, we will get to it, starting with verse 20, it is really, all of this creation, everything that we have done so far is now moving in to the firmament, and we really see the soul of man coming forth. We see the soul of man coming forth, the living soul, what is called the living soul.
God is putting all of these things together. At the beginning it was just an embryo. When God put it together at the beginning, it was just an embryo, and now it is coming forth as a soul, as a man, living soul with a mind in it.
COMMENT: The sons of God on the fourth day you said?
PASTOR VITALE: The fourth day, four is the number of generation, so I am suggesting to you that on the fourth day the sons of God were created in the mind of God.
COMMENT: You mean the stars or...
PASTOR VITALE: The stars yeah.
COMMENT: The stars.
PASTOR VITALE: The individual members of the soul.
COMMENT: Those are the lesser lights though.
PASTOR VITALE: The lesser lights, the individuals. The greater light is the corporate mind of Christ, the lesser light is the soul realm which reflects the light of Christ, and the stars are the individual members, through whom both lights are supposed to be shining
COMMENT: So this is the answer to the question that said, I knew since the foundation of the world, it was that this fourth day.
PASTOR VITALE: Xxxx I cannot answer questions like this because I have to think about them, okay.
COMMENT: Well, we will see if that is what that means. (Everyone laughing).
PASTOR VITALE: Let me put this on the tape also though, you know some people would get upset with what I am saying, because they have been reading this Bible for years, and they would prefer to believe that this is the creation of the natural sun and moon and stars, so if you are listening to this tape and that is how you are feeling, do not be distressed because everything that God does in the realm of the spirit, eventually appears, it appears in the natural, but it is done in the spirit.
We have done some teaching on this recently, I know I have touched on it pretty strongly, at least once or twice, when God moves, He moves in the spirit, if He heals your body, He heals you in the realm of the spirit. I know sometimes He sends you to a doctor, I am not getting into that right now. Ideally when God moves, He moves in the realm of the spirit, and the issue that addressed recently was the sun standing still in the sky, and this particular Scripture makes, because Christians do not understand what happened, people who are angry and have an ungodly spirit towards the Scripture, they make Christians, they make mincemeat out of Christians because science says that if the sun were to stand still in the sky, the whole planet would go catapulting off of its axis, we would all be destroyed. The truth of the matter is, well the truth of the Scripture is, that when the Scripture says the sun stood still in the heavens, it was not talking about the natural sun, it is speaking about the spiritual sun.
When God works miracles, He works miracles in the unseen realm and that is how He could do it without the earth going off of its axis and everybody being destroyed. Everything God does, He does in the spirit and we see the results of it in the visible creation. If you are listening to this tape and you are upset over what I am saying, do not be upset, because everything that I am saying eventually manifested in the visible.
COMMENT: So, that question about the son of God being the waters in the question earlier about the waters, like was that the real, the physical waters, well eventually it appeared as the waters appeared, eventually, but this was physically. First the whole thing is spiritual right? But it ends up that, in other words, if the son of God had not separated from the Father, I mean the spiritual son of God, had not separated from the Father and the waters appeared spiritually, then there would not have ever been any physical waters, is that right?
PASTOR VITALE: Right, just like if the seed does not separate from the man, there will never be a child, the woman will never conceive, it is the same principle. You have to go out from where you are, first the seed has to go out from the man, then the baby has to go out from the mother, to continue as going out, the son separated from the Father, then the Christ was formed, and then the soul realm separated out from the realm of the spirit, then the visible realm separated out from the soul realm, but everything is all one, they separated out into different layers, different orbits of the atom of the whole creation.
COMMENT: But if the intelligence that was in the dry earth had not taken and gone out in the realm of the appearance, it would not have turned out like it is, the fallen realm.
PASTOR VITALE: Well he did, what happened at the fall, was that the intelligence in the earth went beyond, he put a third orbit onto the atom. He added something to it, we found that in Daniel 8, he went beyond, and that is why this physical world called the land of Nod is lying on top of Eden. That is why this world is going to be rolled back like a scroll because Eden is underneath.
COMMENT: The firmament is Eden?
PASTOR VITALE: Is the firmament Eden? I do not know, I have to think about that, I do not want to give any easy answer, I will have to think about that.
COMMENT: I guess where I am getting at is...
PASTOR VITALE: No, I do not think the firmament is Eden no, Eden is the image that was projected by the creation in this condition. When the creation was in the proper order, when the mind of Christ was dominating the darkness there was an image projected, and the name of that image is Eden, but right now the creation is in the wrong moral order and there is an image which is projected and it is called the land of Nod or hell.
COMMENT: But hell, that did not exist in the beginning of time, hell right?
PASTOR VITALE: No, hell did not come into existence until the fall.
COMMENT: How could hell be on the outside then, if that was not after the fall?
PASTOR VITALE: I said Satan is hell. Whether it is hell or heaven, it is in two places, it is in your mind and it is the image that is projected. Listen, it is the image that is projected, and the image which is projected is from, it is projected from the predominating force in the mind. When, even though hell is present in the form of Satan, he was under the dominion of Christ, so he was projecting any image, he was not casting any shadow, he was hidden, he was down, he was underneath. Are you listening to me, he was down underneath, but when Satan came up and took a dominating position in the creation, he cast his shadow and the mind in the creation which was heaven, became hell, because it was not dominated by Satan, and the image that was projected also became hell.
All of the elements or in the creation, the question is, which element is predominating. That is why if you can grasp this principle, you can understand that God is not destroying anything, He is just rearranging the atoms, He is just rearranging the atoms, and you people out there that get very upset when I say that Satan has a place in the creation, God is not destroying anything, it is just a changing sexual role, what is up is coming down, and what is down is coming up, a rearrangement of the atoms, nothing is going away anywhere, just taking a different position.
When it is in the right moral order it is heaven, and when it is in the wrong moral order it is hell, but hell is there, it is just like when a woman gets married, she takes her husband's name. Her maiden name is still present, but she is known by her husband's name. Hell is present in the form of Satan, but he is inactive, he is inert, he is not doing anything.
COMMENT: I guess it is just the way you have it drawn there, it looks like the spirit is on the inside and Satan is on the outside.
PASTOR VITALE: Well it is, the spirit is on the inside.
COMMENT: Well how come Satan is seen in the realm of appearance, if he has got no power and he is projected through and he is hard.
PASTOR VITALE: Yeah, no that is not the realm of appearance, this is not the realm of appearance, so maybe this is confusing you. This is not the realm of appearance, this is the atom of the creation. The realm of appearance is an image which is projected by this atom. This is the actual atom, and it is going to throw an image off, this is not the image.
COMMENT: So the seas is the waters of Christ?
PASTOR VITALE: The seas have three elements in them, Elohim the waters, Christ the light, and some particles of darkness.
COMMENT: Is there still though the light of Christ flowing out and surrounding that atom?
PASTOR VITALE: No,
COMMENT: No? I do not understand how it could be. There is no light that is surrounding that whole thing?
PASTOR VITALE: The light that is surrounding it is the image which is thrown off but it is not shown up there.
COMMENT: Oh, so there is an image that is thrown off that comes from the inside of the seas.
PASTOR VITALE: Right, it is the image of the spirit realm. Whatever spirit is ruling, it is both on the inside and the outside, so the ruling spirit is at the very center and it projects an image which is at the farthest extreme, the reason we are in outer darkness right now is that the spirit which is in our center is not Christ. The spirit in our center is Satan through his carnal mind, so therefore this world is outer darkness, but when our center is, you see it is reversed, let me put it up here.
This is what we look like now, Satan is at the center, we have the firmament which is the soul realm. Satan is at the center, the firmament or the soul realm is in the same place, he is at the center, it is no longer the waters underneath the firmament and above the firmament of our Christ, now this is, this is completely influenced by Satan and then there is another circle out there, which is this land of Nod or the east side of Eden. Can you see it? Yeah. It is reversed, that which was underneath is now on top.
COMMENT: So whether there is Christ in the center of that atom or Satan, there always going to be that dry Satan out there, so there like two realms of Satan there, I mean that is where we are in, we are in two realms of Satan right?
PASTOR VITALE: Yes, well this Satan here now becomes the carnal mind, it becomes the carnal mind. Satan the unconscious mind, the carnal mind, the conscious mind, and then there is also the land of Nod.
COMMENT: That is like three realms of Satan.
PASTOR VITALE: Yeah, it is three realms of Satan, spirit, soul, and physical. I am going to have to think about that, something about it is bothering me, but I am, we are supposed to be making a tape now, it is not coming to me, I will have to think about that. Anybody else?
Let me draw that, there is just something about that, that is bothering me. We have the seas in the center, Christ is appearing in the soul realm, and the dry is the visible spiritual creation, now do not get confused because I said Satan is the dry, remember that Satan is the structure for the visible world, he is the structure for the visible world, he is the spiritual skeleton, if you have heard any of the old tapes, I have talked about him a lot. He is the skeleton of the visible world. Just like we have a skeleton and our flesh is hanging on us, Satan is made out of the earth, and it is the earth that is giving form to the spiritual creation. If we reverse it, when the creation fell we have Satan at the center and we have the carnal mind in the firmament or in the soul realm, and we have the dry is still the visible spiritual creation called Eden, but another ring came on the creation called the land of Nod or hell, and it is lying on top of Eden, can you see that?
PASTOR VITALE: It is just like saying that Satan is the spiritual skeleton, he is made out of dry earth, and he is the form for the visible creation.
COMMENT: Christ is the bone structure for the spiritual creation? To the bones of Christ were the spiritual?
PASTOR VITALE: No, Christ is in the soul realm, Christ is in the firmament, He is in the soul realm, and the soul realm, look, in the realm of the spirit, it is either the Spirit of the Father or the spirit of Satan, in the soul realm, it is either Christ or the carnal mind. In the physical world, I am sorry in the visible world, it is either Eden or Nod, but the structure of the visible world is Satan. If it is Eden, Eden is the section right next to the soul realm, Eden the visible spiritual realm but when Satan stole the creation, he put another orbit on it and he covered over Eden with this physical world. Satan is the skeleton of the visible creation, Christ has the skeleton in the soul realm, and that is why, let me just finish this off, that is why this world is rolling back like a scroll, because Eden is underneath it.
COMMENT: You said Eden is the image of Christ in the center, the image that is portrayed out there. I do not see how Eden can even exist if Satan is in the middle and the portraying is now hell or Nod, then Eden is just an image, how could it exist? You know what I mean?
PASTOR VITALE: Well an image created by the or thrown off by the glorious mind of Christ becomes hard, it becomes reality. Just like this world became hard, the mind of Satan threw an image and it became hard, it exists.
COMMENT: So Eden does exist and will always exist?
PASTOR VITALE: Well I do not know about always exist, but it exist, it exist, it is the image that was projected by Christ, it has reality.
COMMENT: It is existing in a realm within us, and overlying it is hell.
PASTOR VITALE: Yes, both within us and...
COMMENT: And that is because Satan got in there and he portrayed all of the way out and made a ring around it.
PASTOR VITALE: Right, he pierced through, he went beyond Eden and covered it over with himself. Eden still exists. Let me give you an interesting example of this.
COMMENT: And hell is going to roll back.
PASTOR VITALE: Hell is going to roll back like a scroll. Let me give you an example of this. We have all of this talk about flying saucers, all of this talk about flying saucers, and I have been very vocal about my opinion that both of these men from Mars or wherever they are supposed to be from, and these flying saucers are demons coming out of the minds of men, and a lot of people who are initially distressed at what I say, jump down my throat and say, But they have their spaceships with them. Brethren, it comes from the unconscious mind of a man, spirit, Satan, spirit at the center. He passes through, this thought passes through the carnal mind, passes through Eden, and pierces through into this world and becomes hard, the spaceship takes form. The aliens take form. Eden was formed, Eden was formed.
Just like you can also say over here, Satan is covering over, you can even do it this way. We said that the dead Christ is within us, the dead Christ is our human spirit, so we can even say that Christ is still at our center, He died but He is still at our center, and Satan is lying over Him. Just like, well let us take it a step further. Christ is still there but He is dead. Satan is lying over Him, then let us split the soul realm in half. I should not say Christ, that is wrong, I am sorry, yeah, so this would be the spirit of Elohim over here, Elohim, Satan is over Him, and then Christ in the soul realm, He is dead, the carnal mind is over here, and he is alive, well he is not alive, he has existence, okay, yeah.
Everything is still in there, but what happened is, that the creation fell down into the pit. Creation fell down into the pit, he is going to be chained in the bottomless pit, under the feet of Christ. What that means, whoever is the one who is under authority is down in the pit. Christ fell down in the pit and He died, but He is still there, and when He is raised from the dead, he is just going to flip everything over.
Everything is there, the only thing that will not be there after the re-flip (laughing), the only thing that will not be there is the land of Nod, it is being rolled back like a scroll, because Satan went beyond. God put Elohim in the creation, God put Satan in the creation, God put Christ in the creation, but God did not put this physical world in the creation, so that is rolling back like a scroll. It is from the book of Revelation and it is in the Old Testament too. Yes, that is what it means rolling back like a scroll.
COMMENT: In Revelation and where else?
PASTOR VITALE: It is either in Isaiah or Jeremiah, but it is in the Old Testament.
COMMENT: Rolling back like a scroll, this is what this means.
PASTOR VITALE: It is rolling back like a scroll.
PASTOR VITALE: Elohim was there at the beginning, Satan was there at the beginning, Christ was there at the beginning, and they are not, and Eden was there at the beginning, it is not going anywhere. The carnal mind is going to dissolve, and that is the separation of the bones from the marrow and the soul from the spirit, and the land of Nod is going to roll back.
COMMENT: So what is going to happen to the land of Nod, it is rolling back like a scroll, it is just...
PASTOR VITALE: It is not going to exist anymore, it is not exist, it is going to be withdrawn. Now the carnal mind says it is going to be something like this, the carnal mind says, This is the outer orbit of the creation, and the carnal mind that this is rolling back, right, is that what you are thinking, that it is rolling back? It is going to roll back like a scroll, it is going to roll back, so the carnal mind says well this outer realm is going to roll back like that., yeah I know what you mean a scroll, it is the same principle as the Holy Spirit descended like a dove, the Holy Spirit is not a dove, descended in that manner, it is going to roll back like a scroll, and all that it means is that it is going to roll up, that is all that it means, it is a parable, all that it means is that it is going to roll up. What I am trying to tell you is that it is not going to roll back like I just said, it is not going to fold back, I do not know how to draw it, I know what you mean it is going to roll back, but I cannot draw it, it is not going to do it like that, it is not going to do it like that, what is going to happen, is that He has got this creation with several orbits on it, it is going to roll back this way to the center, it is going to go back to the center, it is going to flow back.
COMMENT: That makes sense because what I was saying is on the outer rolling back like, where is it going to go, it is still on the outer, so that is it, it has to go back in.
PASTOR VITALE: Yeah, it is rolling back in.
COMMENT: And a scroll has a beginning and an end, a circle has no beginning or end so that explains it.
PASTOR VITALE: Yeah, it is flowing back into the center. I just had the most interesting thought, yes it is going to flow back in yes. I just had the most interesting thought, this world that we live in, it is hard, it exists, the earth out there exists, okay, how this hard earth, this hard world going to flow back in, and I just had the most interesting thought, the way it is going to be peeled away or rolled back is that the spiritual elements of it are going to flow back in this way, but the part that is not spiritual, maybe all of these wars that are coming upon the earth are just going to bomb it all away, just going to bomb is all away, back into pieces of dust, I do not know.
There is a spiritual element in this physical world that will go back into the creation, but I am having trouble finding the words, I know what I am trying to say, but things that are hard, that exist, it is going to be like rubbish, it is going to have be some kind of cleansing here, unless there is something that I do not understand, just like the spaceships get trapped down here, the spaceships get hard and they cannot get back, some of them cannot get back, there must be a way that they can reconvert back to spirit and get back, because there is only one here or one there that gets trapped out here. There has to be a way to get back, but every once in a while something goes wrong.
I do not know, that thought just popped into mind. The aliens get trapped down here. There is a new movie coming out, I just saw it on tv the other day, the story of two men that claim they were abducted by aliens, you know this is a big phenomenon today, being abducted by aliens, brethren, it is their own minds vibrating out from their mind and appearing in front of them, taking form, getting hard, and possessing them or doing whatever they want with them.
I have been saying this for years, and now they are coming on tv and they are saying that these people that have this experience, that is happens to the same people over and over again. In other words, if you are vulnerable to this, if you it is happening to you, well let me tell you something, if these aliens are flying in from Mars, and they are coming to the earth with trillions of people on the earth and they keep coming back for you when they are flying in from outer space? No, it is coming from your mind, that is why it is happening to you over and over and over again, because they are not coming from outer space looking for you out of trillions of people.
Out of trillions of people on this earth, you think that the hundred people that have had or even the thousand people that have had this experience, that these aliens, these spaceships coming thousands of light years from another planet are coming back and pinpointing you every time? It is coming out of your mind, they are coming out of your mind. Then I saw some people interviewed and they are saying it is generational, happens to the father, happens to the son. You mean these aliens that are coming from 60 million thousand light years are coming onto the earth looking for the son of the man they did it to forty years ago? That is ridiculous, it is in your mind, it is in the mind of the individual, definitely, definitely. Like I said, I have been saying this for years, but now that I am hearing this, that it is generational, and that it is happening, it is repeated incidents, to me it just confirms it, that they are coming right out of your mind.
You have to have heavy curses on your background you know for this to happen, and then of course in the one movie that I saw, they had the woman that it was happening to, and she sits down to have dinner at the table with her husband who is a nominal Christian and he sits there and he says some carnal prayer, asking for the help of the Lord Jesus Christ and she walks away from the table and the alien appears to her. That kind of Christianity is not going to protect you from demons manifesting as aliens. You better be deep in to Christ and very much engaged in a spiritual warfare if you want any help from the Lord at all in these areas. Such a lack of information on the earth.
I pray that God has mercy on this human race because they just do not have the information, they just do not have it, and probably it is someone who is being attacked by demons and kidnapped by demons stood in front of me, probably they would walk out of here and go down to some local church on the corner who would tell them that I do not know what I am talking about, and they would walk away without getting help.
I just pray that God have mercy on this whole creation because the priesthood has to be revealed to the world that the witness of God's anointing on His true prophets has to be revealed to the world so that the people can get some help. The situation is not good, the existing situation is not good. Anybody else, going, going, gone.