Pride And The Sin Nature

 

From: xxxx

Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004

To: Sheila Vitale

 

Thank you.  Much to chew on here.

 

Yes, my "feathers got ruffled" about the prior dream interpretation rebuke, but I took that right to the LORD Jesus in much repentance concerning my own heart. Father knows I would not be able to function properly unless I self-examined my own motives. That is the way of the Word in my life and training in Intercession. I'm also pretty well grounded, I believe, in the ways of GOD through spiritual authority...as such I would much rather throw myself upon the altar of GOD in repentance than to question or even "think" on rebelling against corrective or instructional Word through a mature seasoned prophetic voice of authority such as yourself.

 

[Pastor Vitale:] SATAN, THE UNCONSCIOUS PART OF THE CARNAL MIND - UNTIL THE SAINT OF GOD EXPOSES HER AND BEGINS TO CONTROL HER - IS AN ENTITY UNTO HERSELF, OPERATING IN THE DARKNESS OF THE SPIRITUAL NIGHT, WHICH HIDES HER ATTITUDES AND THOUGHTS FROM THE CONSCIOUS MIND OF THE WELL-MEANING SAINT OF GOD.

 

EVERY THOUGHT THAT IS NOT OF FAITH (CHRIST), COMES FROM THE CARNAL MIND, WHICH IS BOTH GOOD AND EVIL. IT IS VERY EASY TO RECOGNIZE THE EVIL THOUGHTS OF THE CARNAL MIND BUT, ON THE CONTRARY, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO RECOGNIZE  THE GOOD THOUGHTS THAT COME FROM THE CARNAL MIND. ALL THOUGHTS THAT COME FROM THE CARNAL MIND ARE PRIDE, BECAUSE THE CARNAL MIND IS PRIDE.

 

THERE IS A HEALTHY PRIDE THAT IS NECESSARY TO SURVIVE IN THIS WORLD, WHICH ITSELF IS FOUNDED ON PRIDE. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO SPIRITUAL MATTERS, AND THE MIND OF CHRIST IS PRESENT, ALL THOUGHTS THAT COME FROM THE CARNAL MIND, GOOD AS WELL AS EVIL, BECOME SIN, IN THE LIGHT OF HIS TRUTH.

 

THE BIGGEST PROBLEM BELIEVERS HAVE IS LACK OF UNDERSTANDING. AS SOON AS A BELIEVER DOES NOT UNDERSTAND A SPIRITUAL TRUTH THAT IS SPOKEN TO HIM, THE CARNAL MIND IMMEDIATELY RISES AND RESPONDS INSTEAD OF CHRIST.

 

YOUR RESPONSE, ABOVE, REVEALS THAT THIS TRUTH, THAT SATAN, THE UNCONSCIOUS PART OF THE CARNAL MIND, EXISTS APART FROM THE VISION AND KNOWLEDGE OF THE CONSCIOUS PART OF THE CARNAL MIND, AND THE WILL OF THE INDIVIDUAL IS NOT YET ROOTED AND GROUNDED IN YOU (WHICH IS OK. THAT IS WHY WE ARE HAVING THIS DIALOGUE).

 

IT IS VERY OBVIOUS TO ME, BY THE DEGREE OF CHARACTER THAT YOU HAVE SHOWN IN OUR RELATIONSHIP SO FAR, THAT YOU WOULD NEVER KNOWINGLY, OR WILLINGLY.

 

"....question or even 'think' on rebelling against corrective or instructional Word through a mature seasoned prophetic voice of authority such as yourself. I know that ultimately it is the Mercy of the LORD to get me higher in Him."

 

[Pastor Vitale] THE DIFFICULTY FOR THE SEASONED CHRISTIAN, THAT ENTERS INTO DISCIPLESHIP, WHICH IS INITIATION INTO THE MYSTERIES OF CHRIST JESUS, IS BELIEVING THAT THERE IS A PART OF HIMSELF THAN HE NOT ONLY DOES NOT HAVE CONTROL OVER, BUT THAT HE IS NOT EVEN AWARE OF.

 

WHAT YOU SAY ABOVE ARISES OUT OF THE PRIDE OF YOUR CARNAL MIND BECAUSE YOU DID NOT UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR SATAN, THE UNCONSCIOUS PART OF YOUR CARNAL MIND, TO SIN, DESPITE ALL OF YOUR CONSCIOUS EFFORTS TO RESPOND AND BEHAVE IN THE MOST GODLY MANNER POSSIBLE.

 

IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND AT THIS POINT, THAT I AM NOT TELLING YOU, IN ANY WAY, THAT YOU ARE HELPLESS OR A VICTIM. ON THE CONTRARY, I AM SENT TO TELL YOU THAT THE GOD WHO YOU HAVE SO FAITHFULLY SERVED ALL OF THESE YEARS, DESIRES TO BRING YOU TO A HIGHER PLACE IN HIS KINGDOM, WHICH ASCENSION REQUIRES A GREATER UNDERSTANDING ON YOUR PART, OF THE SIN NATURE OR THAT IS COMMON TO ALL MORTAL MEN.

 

THE SCRIPTURE TEACHES THAT WE HAVE AN ENEMY WHO IS STRONGER THAN WE ARE. THAT IS WHY WE NEED A SAVIOUR. THE ULTIMATE DELIVERANCE PROMISED BY THE SCRIPTURE IS THAT WE WILL, IN CHRIST JESUS, BECOME STRONGER THAN THAT ENEMY, AND MAKE HER OUR SERVANT. THE SCRIPTURE ALSO SAYS THAT THE LAST ENEMY IS DEATH. IT FOLLOWS, THEN, THAT IF WE ARE STILL CAPABLE OF DYING, WE HAVE NOT YET RISEN ABOVE SATAN'S POWER.

 

ASCENDED SPIRITUAL MINISTRY INVOLVES COMMUNICATION AND MINISTRY IN THE SPIRITUAL PLANES, WHERE THE UNCONSCIOUS PART OF THE MIND DWELLS. WHEREFORE, IN ORDER TO FUNCTION IN ASCENDED SPIRITUAL MINISTRY, IT IS NECESSARY TO CONFRONT SATAN AND LEVIATHAN (THE PRIDE OF MAN) ON LEVELS THAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY NOT ENGAGED THEM, OR EVEN RECOGNIZED THEM.

 

I must say I do find it somewhat troubling that you attribute your own spiritual duress during the week to what was dreamed here.

 

[Pastor Vitale:] HERE IS YOUR CHALLENGE: WILL YOU BELIEVE WHAT I HAVE TOLD YOU? (A) THAT A PART OF YOUR MIND IS NOT WITHIN YOUR VISION OR UNDER YOUR CONTROL, BUT (B) THE LORD WANTS TO EXPOSE THAT PART TO YOU, IN ORDER TO GIVE YOU DOMINION OVER THAT PART OF YOURSELF.

 

For myself, other than some physical tiredness due to my job at XXXXX and much needed rest one night, I have to say I received much confirming blessings from the LORD. As well I saw the LORD move in answer to some critical prayers this week that were brought before Him. I believe that when I go before Christ in true repentance, He purifies and cleanses and I move on in the blessing of His Forgiveness.

 

[Pastor Vitale:] THE ABOVE REVEALS THAT YOU HAVE REJECTED THE FOLLOWING SENTENCE (WHICH PROBABLY FRIGHTENED YOU ON SOME LEVEL): "But, since my motives were righteous towards you, Satan found no place in me, and has returned, or is about to return to you with her wrath undischarged."

 

THE LORD KNOWS ALL ABOUT OUR INFIRMITIES, AND THERE IS NOT ANYTHING THAT WE CANNOT DEAL WITH IN CHRIST. BUT THE SECRET HERE, IS THAT (1) SATAN, THE UNCONSCIOUS PART OF THE CARNAL MIND, SINS CONTINUALLY, (2) WE REAP THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE SINS THAT SATAN SOWS CONTINUALLY, AND (3) THOSE SINFUL UNCONSCIOUS THOUGHTS - WHETHER THEY ARE ACTUALIZED IN THE MATERIAL WORLD, OR NOT -- ARE THE GENESIS OF  ALL FORMS OF SICKNESS, MISHAPS AND DEATH.

 

AND HERE WE SEE THE VERY FOUNDATION OF THE LORD'S PLAN OF DELIVERANCE FOR MANKIND: TO EXPOSE THE AUTHOR OF THIS CRIMINAL MIND, SO THAT WE CAN DEFEAT DEATH, WHICH IS SATAN'S ATTRIBUTE, AND LIVE FULLY OUT OF CHRIST - WHO IS INCAPABLE OF SIN - WHICH RESULTS IN ETERNAL LIFE, BECAUSE THERE IS NO LAW AGAINST A RIGHTEOUS MAN.

 

Also where it comes to the prior dream interpretation rebuke, I already knew by the Spirit of GOD that it was going to happen like that. I knew it wasn't going to be received, and I also knew that it was "risky" in it's way, 'cause my flesh was going to be dealt with!

 

[Pastor Vitale:] KNOWING ABOUT A FORTHCOMING REBUKE DOES NOT RESTRAIN THE MANIFESTATION OF THE SIN NATURE, WHICH IS UNCONSCIOUS. THE LORD IS INVITING YOU TO ENTER INTO THE SPIRITUAL WARFARE THAT WILL EXPOSE AND OVERTHROW YOUR SIN NATURE. BUT BEFORE YOU CAN ENGAGE AND DEFEAT THE ENEMY OF YOUR SOUL, YOU MUST BE WILLING TO FACE SATAN AND HER ACTIVITIES AS THEY TRULY EXIST WITHIN YOUR OWN MIND: THAT THEY ARE THE THOUGHTS OF A FORMIDABLE ENEMY THAT IS A PART OF US, OUR OLD MAN, WHICH THE PRIDE OF MOST MORTAL MEN WOULD SEEK TO DENY.

 

Same thing with the baby dream... I knew your interpretation would be aligned with the doctrine of Christ you teach and totally outside of what I normally see in spiritual interpretations. And that's okay! I praise the LORD anyhow, 'cause that's what I was seeking Him for. Like I said, much to chew on, but it's "tasty meat" to me, and I thank you again.

 

Blessed week to you in Christ,

XXXX

 

[Pastor Vitale:] GOD BLESS YOU AS YOU TAKE THIS VICTORY IN CHRIST JESUS.

 

Sincerely in Christ,

Sheila R. Vitale,

Pastor, Teacher & Founder

Living Epistles Ministries

 


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